swivel knot

[Stefan]

done a nighter sunday/monday.

so this morning (monday) as the light was coming up, the carp started feeding off the top. So i got out the floater gear.

10lb mainline, bubblefloat, swivel, 8lb hook length and size 8 hair-rigged. The problem was that i got a take off an estimated 15lber, as i struck i made contact for about 3 seconds, them it went loose. I reeled in to find that my knot had slipped apart at the swivel, leaving the fish with the hook in its mouth. As you can imagine i was devastated, my pb off the top is 8lb and i could have doubled it with this fish.

 

My question is, can anyone recommend a very strong, reliable, easy to tie hook to be used with a swivel. I use a tucked 1/2 blood knot, but this is hard to tie as the point of a swivel is to stop line twist, and the knot needs line twist.

 

Stefan

[Tim Kelly]

Grinner/uni-knot or Palomar knot.

 

http://www.fish4fun.com/knots.htm

[Andy Macfarlane]

Grinner knot. Strong as hell and it doesn't crush the line.

[Andy Macfarlane]

Bloody hell that was quick. What an annoyingly efficient forum....lol

[Rob Ward]

Palomar but pass it through the eye twice.

 

The blood knott causes strangulation.

[Dick Dastardly]

Learn the Grinner Knot and it will do you for tieing on any think with an eye or for joining line together.Dead easy and can be tied in the dark without the need for Blackpool Illuminations!

[RUDD]

The grinner knot is my no one choice.

[PeterJC]

Grinner Knot - 4 turn for mono and 5 turn, twice through the eye for braid etc.

Peter

[sherlockofsheff]

Budgie / Rudd / Peter

I am using braid for the first time this coming season. Is the diagram of the grinner knot posted by Andy correct, as I have seen other diagrams where the line weaves through each individual loop created when the line is first twisted round the mainline?

 

Cheers

 

Steve

[Dick Dastardly]

Before the loop is created you are often shown to take four/five turns upn the line,this is for two reasons,it keeps the loop in place and helps the knot gather up when tightening.With mono I use this with braid I dispense with these turns and just make a loop.This helps when tightening up.It also helps the knot form properly if you are using the twice through the eye method often reccomended for braid.I am not over sold on the need for going through the eye twice.Most times the two passes of line end up crossing each other any way if great care isnt taken.A lot of people have told me it is essentiall but the hundreds of ton plus cats caught either by myself or customers on hooks with only one pass through the eye leads me to doubt this.