Foward thinking

[Norfolkdipper]

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Thanks for the link, a good read & loads of hints.

 

Dales

It may seem an exessive mix but I hope to hit next season with a bang & really go for it. I am fed up with just doing a day here & a day there, not really getting know the waters. So next season it all changes.

 

Rudd

the 'spud idea' sounds good & would give a bed of bait to cast to. Thanks, I will try it.

 

Rob Ward

Thanks to you as well for the cat details. I will get one.

 

Access is by permission onto a farm, so very little fished. The most I have ever seen there is just 5 rods at the most.

Below are pics to show the water. qwell there was to be but it wont let me. tried jpg, img & img thumbnail. None allowed, so if you would like to see them please leave me your email in a msg.

Thanks to you all.

Mark

 

 

[Worms]

I am after any help in planning an opening weekend river fishing. I intend on fishing the yare again at Postwick, just east of Norwich. What I need advice on is the best way to pre-bait the swims. I intend on doing a session from, setting up on the 15th

You might want to check out your local byelaws...Groundbait is illegal during the close season on my waters!

[RelaxGod]

Thats a pretty big river to make a dent in and as has been said an expensive mix. I wouldn't be shy of baiting heavily as it will all get swallowed up. If i were to go at this i'd be getting sacks of hemp, maize and parti mix and instead of trying to get the bait into the proven area you want to fish, bait heavily into an area that's easier to reach. The quantity would be as much as i could carry. I'd be looking at baiting every third day back from the 16th on at least four occasions.

 

 

[Worms]

...assuming it's legal!

[Dales]

Quote Norfolkdipper

 

"Dales

It may seem an exessive mix but I hope to hit next season with a bang & really go for it. I am fed up with just doing a day here & a day there, not really getting know the waters. So next season it all changes."

 

 

 

Hi Mark

 

It's not that I think the volumn is excessive just the cost. To be honest I don't have a clue whether that is a lot or a little bit of bait for a tidal river as fishing tidal waters is way outside my comfort zone. But when ever I consider using a lot of bait, cost becomes a major factor to me and so I try to bulk buy or cut my bait as much as possable with cheaper ingredients.

 

Anyway good luck with the fishing and let us know how you get on.

 

EDIT: Forgot to add, you are so right about getting to know a water well. It is often the key to success.

Edited April 10, 2013 by Dales

[Anderoo]

I donb't know the Yare - my feeling is that this will be fine to get a bit of bait in the area ahead of fishing, but if you're hoping to hold shoals of hungry bream, I don't think it will touch the sides! For that, volume rather than contents (within reason) is what matters.

 

If after roach and bream, a much cheaper alternative for the amount you'd need on a big, powerful river is mashed bread. In the winter when fishing for a single fish in each spot, I still get through up to 8 loaves in a half-day session. For pre-baiting in warmer weather for a bigger head of fish, it's probably down to how much you can carry. (On some stretches of the Thames in winter I've had shoal bream (up to 6lb) on flake fished over mash when chubbing after dark.)

 

If you live close enough, I'd also be more inclined to start the baiting several weeks before the start of the season with a higher volume, lower cost mix, rather than baiting a few days before the start with a lower volume, higher cost mix.

 

Best of luck though, I hope it goes well.

[Norfolkdipper]

As I can drive right to the waters edge, only the suspension stops me overloading with bait. But unfortunately I live 25miles from the peg I want to fish. I live in the drier west of Norfolk & most waters this side, if not all, are private or annual / day ticket.. So I am limited to a hard fed long weekend there from the 15th to the 17th June. If volume is the answer, then I may consider getting a small row boat, electric motor & a roof rack.

There is a farm near here which sells wheat £7 or 8 / 25kg bags. So I may buy a few bags to cook up at home, with some sweetcorn & hemp, then transfer it in bait buckets. If I do 25kg wheat, 25 kg sweetcorn & 15kg hemp as a base mix, I can always add to it at the river. A mixture of :- maggots, casters, worms & particle mix can be added at the river & should do the job nicely, with the base materials being cheaper & bulkier.

I will have to see how things go nearer the time.

So will now look out for 'army size' cooking pots & a large gas (bottle) stove. Or as I live alone, cook them indoors.

 

Question, once cooked & in sealed buckets, how long can it last?

 

The idea of a boat really does interest me, ( but not the rowing in tidal waters), & it would give me precise location for the bait.

[Andy Macfarlane]

I am after any help in planning an opening weekend river fishing. I intend on fishing the yare again at Postwick, just east of Norwich. What I need advice on is the best way to pre-bait the swims.

 

Pre -bait mix

 

Groundbait 2 bags

crumb 1 bag

maggots 1 pint

casters 1 pint

Chopped worms 1/2 pint

hemp 1 jar

Particle mix 2 tins

Sweetcorn 2 tins

Pellets 3 & 6 mm 1 bags each

Flaked tuna 2 tins

What would you add or change? Or is my mix ok?

 

I wouldn't be so extravagant. In my mind, pre-bait is merely to draw fish into a swim over a period, hopefully hold them there or at least perhaps instill a new area for the fish to visit at some point throughout the day.

 

I'd make it relatively simple but at least worthwhile for the fish to stay or come back at least. I think simple breadcrumb and cheap frozen corn (99p a kilo from supermarkets) would suffice. You could maybe add a little flavouring or use up some old casters or frozen maggots, if you have any but that's about all I'd use. I'd maybe liquidise some of the corn to help disperse the flavour.

 

I'd also go for quantity and if possible, a regular feeding regime. Feeding the fish with costly baits could prove expensive and it's something you'd be less likely to repeat with any regularity. I'd keep it cheap, go for volume and try to maintain a pattern that goes along with the time you intend to fish.

 

I'd keep the good stuff for the day you actually intend to fish.

Edited April 10, 2013 by Andy Macfarlane

[RelaxGod]

The idea of a boat really does interest me, ( but not the rowing in tidal waters), & it would give me precise location for the bait.

 

I've got a small boat and while its my favourite investment its cost me a lot more than i anticipated. River license, insurance, roof rack, straps, elec outboard, battery, charger, petrol outboard, the boat itself and of course a life jacket. I think for the amount of use i've got out of it, its somewhere in the region of £20 a mile over 2 years It is great setting out in it though, can't stop grinning

[Dales]

most fish @ 40-50m distance so catapult is no good.

 

40-50m no bother with the right catapult, try the Fox Method Master or Drennan Whopper Dropper.

 

Mark put the boat on hold and go for Rob's idea of a decent catapult.

 

Or borrow Renrag and get him to row it out all out on his Yak