How to rig this little beauty?

[Peter Waller]

A mere 17" of jelly, but how should I rig it? I'm more used to the smaller shad type jobby shown a long side the big job.

[Newt]

http://www.saltwatersportsman.com/saltwate...1120039,00.html

 

And some sort of large Offset Hook

[Peter Waller]

I have no doubts that said megga grub will pull the old girls, but I'm not so sure that my usual single hook rig will do the job. I shall play with it, but just wondered if anyone else had any ideas.

[Newt]

Peter - I've tried to visualize a decent way of using a multi-hook setup with a curly tail grub and I really can't think of one that wouldn't totally ruin the action of that particular design.

 

Nice single-page article Here showing how one US pike angler rigs similar shapes.

 

With a more classic 'worm' design, you can certainly use multiple hooks and still be able to get a decent action on the worm but even there I'm not sure it is needed.

 

Take a look at the various rigs Here and you can see that the hook only occupies a small part of the front section of the lure. I pretty much rig this way and if the fish are of decent size, they seem to get the whole thing in their mouth pretty easily.

 

I freely admit I have never used a monster like the one you are dealing with but don't the folks who sell them have rigging suggestions? If not, an offset hook in a large size would be the way to go I think.

 

Mustad only has to 5/0 I think

 

Eagle Claw, Owner, Gamakatsu, and a few others have them to slightly larger sizes.

[Peter Waller]

Thanks for the effort Newt, I'll read it all later, just off to catch a pike or two, I hope. The folks who sold it don't have a clue, let alone any suitable hooks or rigs!

[jerry weijers]

images says more then words so look at here

 

http://totalfishing.nl/roofvis/shadmontage/shadmontage.asp

 

 

works very good at all shads twisters grubbs etc etc

 

gr jerry

[Ken L]

http://www.esox.co.uk/new_page_63.htm

[gilby]

Hmm, think my wife saw something similar for sale at an Ann Summers party.

 

I'm assuming that the shad is 6", then in that case the curlytail has to be about the same diameter as akalin big un. A friend of mine has tried on and off for a couple of years and still hasn't been able hook up a hit. He's using a size 10/0 single (barbarian jig hook from sovereign superbaits) and two trebles set up either side as stingers. One of these towards the end of the body, the other closer to the front.

 

I have used the smaller version of that grub with a light size 7/0 jig head, with or without a stinger depending if the pike are "having it."

 

Incedently Peter, I'm very interested in the way you are using a circle hook for the shad. I've tried circles once for livebaiting which is an odd situation letting the pike move off and then winding down. (don't normally live bait in the summer, was a one off experiment) Do you disengage the reel on the take and let the fish move off and then wind down?

[Peter Waller]

Hi Gilby, I just wind down till I feel the fish, the fish does the rest.

 

I use the 'smaller version' alot, with no weight and a single circle.

[Peter Waller]

Thanks Ken & Jerry. Like both your illustrations show I do sometimes use 'grub screws', great little devices. Thanks for reminding me though, food for thought and probably the best way forward with these super grubz, I had forgotten them.

 

Jerry, your picture shows a weight under the shad, presumably to stop it twisting. To be honest not a problem that I have ever had but certainly an idea worth remembering.