What fishing should be like.

[barry luxton]

see: http://www.sacn.org.uk/Opinion/Bigger_Bass_Better_Days.html

 

Many thanks for that link Leon, there is still many bass off the bill from my point of view in the race, but i would definatly like to see them of a larger average size, so i still think the mls needs to increase substantially.

[glennk]

Bass again Leon. If you want some Pictures of bigger cod to finish of the More and bigger "fish" article just get yourself into the Whitby forum One of our members had a 19 pounder off the rocks last year.

Edited April 7, 2007 by glennk

[Leon Roskilly]

Bass again Leon. If you want some Pictures of bigger cod to finish of the More and bigger "fish" article just get yourself into the Whitby forum One of our members had a 19 pounder off the rocks last year.

 

 

Hi Glenn,

 

Not my article.

 

But if you want cod, I was sent this picture of one angler's catch from the same era, all taken in less than 20foot of water I'm told.

 

[stavey]

Bass again Leon. If you want some Pictures of bigger cod to finish of the More and bigger "fish" article just get yourself into the Whitby forum One of our members had a 19 pounder off the rocks last year.

 

Hi glen

 

not having a go but one fish of 19lb in a place regarded as one of the the best places for cod fishing in this country is not that much to go on realy imo, but i suppose rsa's in the north east have got to be thanful that they still have any, unlike us southerners cheers.........

[Guest challenge]

Leon.

That is a fantastic catch of cod, with a photo that does it credit. Fish taken in less than 20 foot of water must have been sport to saver.

I take it that the photo and the catch where taken a few years ago? Regardless of when they where taken it matches anything that I have seen from this part of the world by a single angler. we had some great sport last year on wrecks in not much more than 40 ft of water and considering that they where had in a 80ft boat with a thumping engine pounding away I believe that we would of spooked as many as we caught. Of course we where 140 plus miles away from the supposedly cod Mecca of the North Sea at the time.

Regards.

Stavey.

I believe that a forum member on here (darlick) had a few fish on the 20lb (cod) side from very close in last year, but clear of him I can only recollect one cod of 20+ being caught of Whitby. We caught plenty of cod over 20lb but most of them where caught in the Danish sectors.

Happy Easter to you all.

Regards.

[Leon Roskilly]

Those with memories of the kind of fishing available in the 50s, 60s and 70s are becoming fewer in number as each year passes.

 

(And who wants to hear when an old duffer starts on 'When I were a lad........')

 

Transport was a problem in those days, so people didn't travel much, fishing locally mainly.

 

And the gear and techniques and knowldedge of baits etc we have available today simply didn't exist.

 

Even so, I remember the big problem being how to get hold of those strong plastic heavy-duty builders bags to carry the catch with (nowdays a Tesco bag will do).

 

I wish that I had some photos from the days I started sea-fshing in the UK in the very late '60s/early '70s but I guess that saltwater and sand and a box brownie didn't mix.

 

Or more to the point, the catches we were getting weren't that special at the time, so you really didn't bother phtographing them usually, thus denying future generations the photographic archive that could now be important to show what sea fishing had once been like, (and perhaps could be again).

 

I wish that I had access to some cheap time travel.

 

Imagine what I could do with modern gear, rigs and bait presentation.

 

I just hope that a journey into the not-so-distant future would be as good (or even better) than one back to those days of fading memory.

[Jaffa]

Those with memories of the kind of fishing available in the 50s, 60s and 70s are becoming fewer in number as each year passes.

 

(And who wants to hear when an old duffer starts on 'When I were a lad........')

 

Transport was a problem in those days, so people didn't travel much, fishing locally mainly.

 

And the gear and techniques and knowldedge of baits etc we have available today simply didn't exist.

 

Even so, I remember the big problem being how to get hold of those strong plastic heavy-duty builders bags to carry the catch with (nowdays a Tesco bag will do).

 

I wish that I had some photos from the days I started sea-fshing in the UK in the very late '60s/early '70s but I guess that saltwater and sand and a box brownie didn't mix.

 

Or more to the point, the catches we were getting weren't that special at the time, so you really didn't bother phtographing them usually, thus denying future generations the photographic archive that could now be important to show what sea fishing had once been like, (and perhaps could be again).

 

I wish that I had access to some cheap time travel.

 

Imagine what I could do with modern gear, rigs and bait presentation.

 

I just hope that a journey into the not-so-distant future would be as good (or even better) than one back to those days of fading memory.

 

Hi Leon,

 

Heres some old duffer stuff for you

 

I started fishing 30 years ago now; mainly chasing trout in my local stream which now is little more than a featureless drainage ditch thanks to the flooding of a new estate built on a patch long named as "warterybutts".....

 

On the sea fishing front, i cut my teeth in lunatic teenage ADVENTURES on dark cliffs and cod. 30 years on and their are still plenty of cod to be caught but IMHO the teenagers aint allowed to take those kind of risks anymore,,and we are told by the same peeps that are so concerned for our safety, that there are no cod.

 

My local cliff marks are now packed out with guys that have all the gear; think i preffered it the way it was before the magazines started targeting this area

 

Not sure you need time travel Leon, just move north a bit. The fishing in Shetland is awesome (kinda weird when its a a commercially dominated area ?) its not bad around here in the Ne of Scotland. Best bit is that you can catch fish without knowing anything about modern bait techniques. Drift and feathers will fill a binliner

 

The trouble with cameras surely is they capture a moment and the world just keeps shifting? Which moment is the one to legislate for?

 

Forget mullet, grab your rods and head to Shetland at folkfestival time Uncharted shorefishing and a bit of a good human time at nights too

[glennk]

I remember walking onto Whitby west pier one night and seeing a catch very similer to that Leon by Big cod. If I recall properly he had almost 50. Sadly those days have passed and we may never see the likes again - I fear the damage has been done and any amount of golden miles and bag limits and licences on anglers wont correct it.

 

We don't do so Bad up here though you know Leon. Having had yet another double figure cod this year the fishing we have is by no means finished but also its not perfect. I had a session back in the autumn from one of my favourite rock marks where (except for the first 3 casts where I got the bait combination) I had a fish every cast for around 5 hours - so many fish I lost count and all returned before anyone starts harping on, biggest around 6 pounds. Nothing huge I know.

 

 

Stavey there is still plenty of cod around here well into double figures. I can think of a hell of a lot over the past 2 years.

 

Some recent catches in here:

 

http://www.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk/forum/members-pictures/0/

 

But I guess your right when you look back in time and see how things were its not as good as it once was, but we haven't written it off just yet.

 

 

Would be nice to get these sort of days again though.

 

http://www.wcsa.co.uk/uk-cod-record.php

 

 

or this one from a friend of mine caught just down the road - A shore record that still stands. Different species I know.

 

 

Or Our club record at 30 pounds

 

Edited April 8, 2007 by glennk

[stavey]

Hi Leon,

 

Heres some old duffer stuff for you

 

I started fishing 30 years ago now; mainly chasing trout in my local stream which now is little more than a featureless drainage ditch thanks to the flooding of a new estate built on a patch long named as "warterybutts".....

 

On the sea fishing front, i cut my teeth in lunatic teenage ADVENTURES on dark cliffs and cod. 30 years on and their are still plenty of cod to be caught but IMHO the teenagers aint allowed to take those kind of risks anymore,,and we are told by the same peeps that are so concerned for our safety, that there are no cod.

 

My local cliff marks are now packed out with guys that have all the gear; think i preffered it the way it was before the magazines started targeting this area

 

Not sure you need time travel Leon, just move north a bit. The fishing in Shetland is awesome (kinda weird when its a a commercially dominated area ?) its not bad around here in the Ne of Scotland. Best bit is that you can catch fish without knowing anything about modern bait techniques. Drift and feathers will fill a binliner

 

The trouble with cameras surely is they capture a moment and the world just keeps shifting? Which moment is the one to legislate for?

 

Forget mullet, grab your rods and head to Shetland at folkfestival time Uncharted shorefishing and a bit of a good human time at nights too

 

Hi jaffa

 

I am genuinly pleased to hear you guys up there still have some good quality fishing, and if you did not already know my main passion in life is music (Oooops apart from the missus) to combine some qaulity shore fishing and a music fest would make a great holiday break and i shal have a butchers around the net to look for up coming events around that area, cheers.......

Edited April 8, 2007 by stavey