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Dumping North Sea fish 'immoral'

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:clap2: EASY, a total allowable catch with NO discards. An area can support a certain amount of fish so they , DEFRA, give it a TAC, a total allowable catch. So many tons of, cod, haddock plaice, you name it, DEFRA have a TAC for it. Divide that by the boats with a licence or licences. Say a TAC of 5,000 tons, total, per boat. Video, sat nav, lie detectors, you name it, they, DEFRA, use it. When a boat has caught it's TAC it's laid up for the rest of the year. If they catch rubbish fish, bad luck, learn. If they catch quality fish, good luck, experienced skipper. No discards, if they're over their TAC it's taken out of next years quota. TACS/rules to be enforced with £1,000,000 fines and loss of boat and licence for ever, second or subsequent offences, 5 years in prison, not options. Try it, not many will cheat, well not more than twice. :thumbs:
Sooo, zoning and TAC's is your preferered choice for sustainable fisheries?
Ho hum. You will have to do a lot better than that I'm fraid.
Prove me wrong, but for a 'tv presenter' with his finger on the pulse, you could come across better.
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Sooo, zoning and TAC's is your preferered choice for sustainable fisheries?Prove me wrong, but for a 'tv presenter' with his finger on the pulse, you could come across better.

 

 

I ain't in the 'suck-up to appease you' business Davy. And hard as this might be for you, it’s just the way that it is. I know you have fallen off a fragile soapbox, but try not to be too obsessive and move on.

 

Alternatively read - If you want to swap suggestions based on facts, then you first have to accept that the commercial industry and the poor little fisher-fellas are a bunch of very bad boys. No ifs, no buts... just the hard truth. - and let's play!

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I ain't in the 'suck-up to appease you' business Davy. And hard as this might be for you, it's just the way that it is. I know you have fallen off a fragile soapbox, but try not to be too obsessive and move on.

 

Alternatively read - If you want to swap suggestions based on facts, then you first have to accept that the commercial industry and the poor little fisher-fellas are a bunch of very bad boys. No ifs, no buts... just the hard truth. - and let's play!

 

Okay, they're very very naughty boys, your move...

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How about you state the question again?

 

Gladly: Please explain to me why this grumbling sea rapist had to wait until all those 'live' fish were dead before he threw them back?!

 

And Davy, if you watched the same footage as everybody else, there was no obvious hyperbaric effects evident in relation to the cod boated. And I know you haven’t been driving that big green boat for long, but you must have seen enough cod boated by now to know they are much more robust than pollack, pout, wrasse, ling, torsk etc. That is unless you are doing the porbeagle thing up there and knocking everything on the heed… in which case the debate ends.

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Diabolos, you clearly have me at a distinct advantage since you presume to know everything about me - Whilst I'm deeply flattered, at least get the spelling of my first name right. Since I rarely bother to watch TV would you care to enlighten me as to your identity?

 

Given your infinite knowledge of fisheries would you also care to share how you determine a lack of hyperbaric effect from simply viewing a bit of footage for those that are less enlightened than yourself and do not have the ability to deal in what's concrete in the same way that you clearly can?

 

Yours humbly

 

Davey

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This is a topic that belongs in the conservation section so I'm moving it there now.

 

Hopefully it can remain on topic as it sounds like a situation that does need some discussing.

" My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!" - Harry Truman, 33rd US President

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I found that obscene!!

 

Not your post Barry, but the Altaire netting the Mackerel.

 

Colin

 

Hi Colin, that was what the boat was built for, regarding yesterdays dumping debarcle again the altaire during its programme demonstrated that discard wasn't an issue for them. Apart from that they have to abide by the restraint rules like every one else as they found out to their cost. One other point is once found guilty, the next time remove the licence.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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