Ray ID

[Davy Holt]

Hiya,

 

Sam.. you need to brush up on your Ray ID, :)it's a juvenile Thornie. The eyes are way too big in relation to the body size for it to be a Small Eyed

 

[ 02. January 2005, 11:20 PM: Message edited by: Davy Holt ]

[samuel-cox]

the eyes seem a bit to far faward to be a thornie, plus ive never seen a thornie with those marlings on the wings.Having said that it does have thorns going down its tail, but ive seen blonds with the same. could be a cucko ray maybe.

[samuel-cox]

Honistly I have seen thousands of Essex thornies, and caught them to sixteen and three quarters myself, I understand they come in many different colours and some with more thorns than others, and of course I may still be wrong.

[Davy Holt]

Hiya,

 

There is no way it's a Cuckoo, below is an old pic of a Cuckoo I caught back in 94

 

 

As you can see the shape is wrong as is the markings, Cuckoo's have perfectly round Black wing spots that are covered in small cream lines.. basically the reverse of what is on the small Thornie above

 

Sorry but you are still wrong.. it's a juvenile Thornback Ray (raja clavata)

 

[ 03. January 2005, 12:35 AM: Message edited by: Davy Holt ]

[The Big Man]

Hell there should have been a warning before that photo!! :-)

 

See you up here in a couple o weeks. Waiting for the offy to open for more tequila!!

 

The Big Man

[Spur-Hound]

Its abit like the folk who tell you they catch common skate off inveraray pier:)

[Ian Burrett]

Hi

It's definatley a thornback, My reasons for saying this is by the shape and the angle of the leading wing. The markings on the wings are often found on cuckoos, Blondes, thornbacks and spotted rays, and to add to the confusion Hybrids have been officially identified in Luce Bay.

I once sent pictures to the Natural museum of a fish that was jet black. I thought i had caught something different but it turned out, it was a thornback living in a coal barge that went down in the 50's