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#1 Rusty

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 06:37 PM

 
I know nothing about sea fishing or the fish and have a couple of naive questions;
 
Had this fish not died after landing could it have been put back?
Was its death a natural occurrence or did it possibly 'fall down the stairs'?
Given that it died would a cod of that size make good eating? 
 

It's never a 'six', let's put it back

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 07:38 PM

ask the angling trust, to date they have organised sea anglers from taking, landing the common eel, tope, bass, so cod might well be on their list of fish to ban the sea anglers from taking. Btw regarding their latest success, they are party to closing down the bass charter boat fleet this year, although the French commercial industry have been landing 9 times the amount of the u k 's fishermen. so they are the experts in saving fish lives and couldn't give a toss about those who spend something like 1/3 of a million for their pride and joy charter boats, a pox on the trust.

Been fishing with one charter boat skipper for 40 years top end of the channel. As his main summer fish is the bass, he has lost his bookings this year, the only other fish that he can target is cod, codling really as the French have 70%+ of the cod quota in the channel, so as soon as the cod put their heads up, the French take them. The answer to your question, no matter how big or how many the angler decides to either take home or release, the anglers really don't make a difference to the stock in any event. So your question is of no importance to those who have lost their jobs and business by these so called experts, who have admitted using rubbish angling states and rubbish minor sampling from one area of the channel to close down thousands of sea anglers sporting adventures. This year I may well have to join hundreds more real sea anglers and give those charter boats a miss.

For the first time ever the e u has poked it's nose into the sea anglers affairs, c/o TAT, the angling trust and the above is what those morons have created, even though they do not have one sea angling rep on their books.

 Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.

 
New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.
 
Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.
 
Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.
 
new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.
 
Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because  they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are.. 


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Posted 30 March 2016 - 08:53 AM

There was an interview with the angler on radio 4 the other night, which I found quite amusing.

From 29 minutes;

http://www.bbc.co.uk...s/b074vtgy#play

"Before now, what's the biggest thing you've caught?" "A 150lb marlin"

Also Eddie Mair trying to get his head round it being the largest cod caught by a Brit but not the world record that the angler was looking for.

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 09:07 AM

 
I know nothing about sea fishing or the fish and have a couple of naive questions;
 
1.   Had this fish not died after landing could it have been put back?
2.   Was its death a natural occurrence or did it possibly 'fall down the stairs'?
3.    Given that it died would a cod of that size make good eating? 

1.    Personally I would have returned it if it were alive,   Cod (indeed most fish) flesh coarsens with age.  Prefer fish of 4 to 7 lb (Fillet, skin, and freeze fillets - its a waste of time putting large fish bodies in freezer - it takes ages to defrost them, and most flavour is lost thereby.

       Barry is quite right.   Whether or not anglers return catches is trivial compared to even the discards from commercial fishing - measured in tons, not in centimetres !

 

2.      Cause of death might be related to depth it was hauled up from - Norwegian coasts very steep-to.   Only those on that boat know.

 

3.    I responded to the same link (Corydoras, Modern Art, NF Chat) by saying I would call up my ox-roasting friend Fred - roast the bugger (the cod, not Fred) on a spit, and dispense  lumps of cod to the assembled starving peasants.    I would bring my own venison burghers to the feast, for comsumption by me and mine.




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Posted 30 March 2016 - 09:11 AM

He mentions in the interview that it was being brought up from great depth.

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 09:13 AM


"Before now, what's the biggest thing you've caught?" "A 150lb marlin"

 

Steve, he might have been being subtle.   A 150 lb marlin is actually quite small (Norma has an Atlantic Blue of over 900 lb to her name) compared with a near-world-record cod.

 

If someone asked me what my biggest fish was, I might reply  "A 4 lb perch"  -  remembering Dick Walker once saying " A big perch is the biggest fish there is"




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#7 Steve Walker

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 10:07 AM

True - but I think the interviewer was hoping that he would say something like "a mackerel". The chap had an 80-odd pound cod from Norway last year and was targeting the world record, so I think the interviewer's idea of the ingénue getting lucky was misplaced!

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 01:44 PM

1.    Personally I would have returned it if it were alive,   Cod (indeed most fish) flesh coarsens with age.  Prefer fish of 4 to 7 lb (Fillet, skin, and freeze fillets - its a waste of time putting large fish bodies in freezer - it takes ages to defrost them, and most flavour is lost thereby.

       Barry is quite right.   Whether or not anglers return catches is trivial compared to even the discards from commercial fishing - measured in tons, not in centimetres !

 

2.      Cause of death might be related to depth it was hauled up from - Norwegian coasts very steep-to.   Only those on that boat know.

 

3.    I responded to the same link (Corydoras, Modern Art, NF Chat) by saying I would call up my ox-roasting friend Fred - roast the bugger (the cod, not Fred) on a spit, and dispense  lumps of cod to the assembled starving peasants.    I would bring my own venison burghers to the feast, for comsumption by me and mine.

:clap3: Very generous and fair, although a burgher may complain about being roasted but a burger wouldn't.  :clap3:



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Posted 30 March 2016 - 03:20 PM

:clap3: Very generous and fair, although a burgher may complain about being roasted but a burger wouldn't.  :clap3:

:bigemo_harabe_net-163:  :bigemo_harabe_net-163:  :bigemo_harabe_net-163:  My English teacher is laughing also.




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