Representative Organisations

[Steve Coppolo]

Are all of those bad things?

 

Some sound reasonable (at least to me) if UK sea fishing is in good condition and urgent if it is not.

 

 

What you have to remember, Newt, is; this is the UK. None of those things mentioned will improve our fishing. It will be just more rules, regulations and red tape for asbsolutely nothing in return. You will still find people here, like Ada, that are prepared to give Defra, et al, chance, after chance, after chance, to deliver in the misguided view that they owe sea anglers something and must come good in the end. They don't, and they won't. I don't know how bad things have to get before people realise that.

 

As far as the heads in the sand comments, Ada, it's better than having it stuck up someones 4rse, like some of our unelected reps do. Personally, my head is in the clear and I can see perfectly well what is happening. I know it's hard to believe, but it's those that can't see further than the next meeting, mad scheme or pat on the back that are ruining the future of sea angling, not those trying to put a stop to the madness.

[H.A.]

Stevie ... carm doon, carm doon ....

 

there are few reps because we have no mates who sympathise with us ...

 

so as always, it's you and me against the rest.

 

I fought a hard fight fer the Fire Brigade on your behalf ...

 

I called 'the secretary' on your behalf's then, and I'd do it again.

I wore your cap you sent me with pride.

 

 

You needed reps and right now I need reps ......

 

but there aren't any!

 

Edited December 7, 2008 by H.A.

[Steve Coppolo]

Stevie ... carm doon, carm doon ....

 

there are few reps because we have no mates who sympathise with us ...

 

so as always, it's you and me against the rest.

 

I fought a hard fight fer the Fire Brigade on your behalf ...

 

I called 'the secretary' on your behalf's then, and I'd do it again.

I wore your cap you sent me with pride.

 

 

You needed reps and right now I need reps ......

 

but there aren't any!

 

 

I forgot about that cap, Ada. Have you still got it?

 

Anyway, there are reps. They're just not very representative! Just like our lot back in 2002! Same ****, different reps! We were sold down the river then, and we are being sold down the river now.

Edited December 7, 2008 by Steve Coppolo

[barry luxton]

and we are being sold down the river now.

 

 

Could spend the next few years on a blaming mission of the reps

[Elton]

Representative

• noun 1 a person chosen to act and speak for another or others.

 

 

Again, I ask; who are these representatives?

 

Even if the term 'representative' is taken as an adjective, the same question applies:

 

• adjective 1 typical of a class or group. 2 containing typical examples of many or all types: a representative sample. 3 (of a legislative or deliberative assembly) consisting of people chosen to act and speak on behalf of a wider group. 4 serving as a portrayal or symbol of something.

[H.A.]

Much of this discussion is not about individual REPRESENTATIVES, it is about this group's (RSAs) abysmal organisation and general apathy.

 

Unfortunately, as we see on another well-known 'commercial' forum, this can lead to domination of discussion by a small, but vociferous bunch of t*ats.

 

[SandTiger]

Unfortunately, as we see on another well-known 'commercial' forum, this can lead to domination of discussion by a small, but vociferous bunch of t*ats.

 

 

C'mon Adrian, we should all be welcoming posts from all sections of those involved in the welfare of our seas. Personally, I welcome the input from people who are also involved in the commercial sector. Of course, there are posters from the angling side that get a bit of a bash and it's up to those posters to stand up and defend their corner in relation to the posts they make, if it is defencible, rather than go running off with tears in their eyes just because they've attracted a bit of flak.

 

Over the years, you've shown the ability to be a vociferous poster also, when things are held close to your heart. What is being discussed here is a questioning of how Defra only recognises NFSA (RIP) & SACN as our reps, when not all share their views or elected them as their voice pieces?

[H.A.]

Tigga

 

yer a nice bloke ...

 

I post again that I have the utmost respect for you ...

I still have cuttings of the 'diving-in incident' ...

and you caught a sole at Selsey.

 

I'm afraid the reparations are coming from our involvement with the Basque countries thingy (Urope?) ..

 

you have to take a breath and say ..

 

more regulation is inevitable ...

 

communities will disappear because the 'Fat Controllers' do not live in Skye or Hayling.

 

Best be in it to bargain or stay 'shtum' and ride out the wave.

 

I'm gonna support mee and the organisation which supports my kindee view .

 

Sheite happens ... deal with it.

 

(I'm sorry, I'm orf to dig some bait ... limpet on the beach too!)

 

[Elton]

I still don't know who our representatives are.

 

If Glenn's list is accurate, then it is extremely worrying. Some of those organisations are very small, do not represent sea angling in general and have probably never asked their membership what they actually want them to say on their behalf.

 

Fine, if you're deciding the dates on next year's club fishing matches. Not fine, if you're affecting whether the rest of us will even be allowed to go fishing next year.

[Elton]

By the way, I'm not saying that small organisations shouldn't have a voice. Far from it - we live in a democracy where minorities have equal rights. However, their minority status should be acknowledged and, if DEFRA are going to take on board the thoughts of such small groups, then they should afford the same right to the rest of us.