wearyone

Talking of urinating in public, Peter. My local council has recently given permission for a trough like urinal in one of the main boozing areas of the City. Apparently about chucking out time this bloody big tin bath type thing rises form the pavement, for all to see, and use. I am told that a further one has also been approved. The only problem is, apart from the lack of common decency, there is no adequate drainage system and the streets are awash with re processed beer. But thats the Lib Dems for you

Thats when the propper fishing starts. Just as long as its dry getting to my swim, and again when returning. Whilst I'm actually on the river I don't give a damn. No brolly, just a warm all weather 2 piece. AND the idiots who prat about in the warmer months are not there. Plus I don't have to fight through vegitation taller than myself.

The Hartlepool Park lake was little more than a paddling pool. Most of the fish were lost due to the water becoming polluted through a combination of tree leafs and bird droppings, plus I believe the council insisted on selling day tickets on a water that was supposed to have been controlled by the angling club. I only ever fished the water once, it was like fishing in Toy Town. And yes, the area was used by the locals as a beer garden, and worse. Not safe to walk through in the day time even [ 20. September 2004, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

To be fair to the police, some had no choice than to be on the picket lines. My brother in-law, who was then in the West Midlands force, was billeted at the Durham Police HQ, Aykley Heads. So too were members of H.M.Armed Forces, a claim that the then Home Secretary always denied. But yes Peter, the miners, and their supporters, were intimidated as you say. Incidentally, anyone from mining area's at that time was classed as 'The Enemy'. I well remember having to travel to London during the strike (an interview for a job in Iraq would you believe) and I was pulled off the motorway, subjected to questioning and my car was searched, presumably because my car had a North Eastern registration. What price freedom? Shortly after the strike my brother in-law got a job with the RSPB, in Scotland. With both sides of his family coming from South Yorkshire mining communities he had great difficulty in coming to terms with the way in which the police were used against his own people.

Peter, all the injuries sustained by the miners didn't really happen. The photographs and TV footage were all staged. Besides, the miners were only striking to preserve their communities, homes, their jobs, and the jobs that went into supporting the mining communities. Destroying people lives is OK, but these fox hunters do it for fun. One has to get ones priorities right, don't you know. No disrespect to the people who now live in the old pit towns of East Durham, but you could be forgiven in thinking you had found yourself in some 1970's Eastern European town. Some don't even have a doctors surgery. I don't really think that will happen if a few hunters have their rights removed to have their hounds rip a wild animal to pieces Never mind, those who do lose jobs can start new careers; stacking supermarket shelves, trolley collecting, or even making nuisance telephone calls from call centres - oh! sorry, they're all now being transferred to India [ 20. September 2004, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

Carp & match free, and one which sells landing nets other than the kiddies size or those great bloody triangular things. Oh! and one that doesn't say 'all hooks are wide gape in those sizes', mate. I take it you are referring to old Fred Alexander, Tyke. Bought my first pint of maggots from old Fred. That was about 1953-4 when he had his shop at the bottom of Lower Kirkgate. He asked did I want them wet or dry, soon found out what 'wet' maggots were. God he was a grumpy old so 'n so. Many years later I finished up living just round the corner from him, 397 Milnthorpe Lane. Paid 35 bob a week for that house, no bath and shared an outside toilet with next door. The wife would never use it, had to take her down to toilets at the bottom of Kirkgate just before the Calder bridge...happy days Called in the shop a few weeks ago, I assume then that was the granddaughter, got the immpesion she didn't have much idea. Neither did the guys at the shop in Outwood. Said they had just taken it over. They were the ones with (or without) wide gape hooks. [ 19. September 2004, 10:13 PM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

As far as I can see from its web site, the CA's Campaign for Angling is nothing more that a publicity vehicle for Mr Jardine. Most other content comes from National press cuttings. From its web site: Countryside access opens up Noticed today that several 'public footpath' signs had been removed from access points across a local estate. (and not housing) [ 19. September 2004, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

Isn't the schelly also a protected species? Now there's a dilemma!

RSPCA; it has a weird and wonderful view of equality, i.e.. banning Christmas decorations in its shops because it could offend other religions. er,....What is the "R" in RSPCA; Royal, as in the Royal Family,...The Queen Who is the head of the Church of England; ahumm, H.M The Queen. Is the RSPCA now saying that the Queen and The Church of England should no longer celebrate Christmas. I note that She goes to great lengths to INCLUDE other religions in her Christmas message these days. [ 19. September 2004, 10:17 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

C.J. He's also in great demand by thumbless football referees at the start of games. I believe he fits them in whilst touring the courty catching and eating coarse fish. [ 19. September 2004, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

Sorry Peter, C.J.(now corrected) Late nights and blurry eyes http://www.countryside-alliance.com/conten...t/view/426/146/ Quote's from C.A. site "We have solid support from organisations like the NFU, FUW, CLA, BASC, NGO and other groups who stand beside us in this fight to prevent this legislation progressing. Please ensure these organisations are also given our full support. Note it has no support from any recognised angling group "We will fight any ban until justice and respect for the rights of ordinary people are restored to their proper place." [ 19. September 2004, 08:54 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

I wrote (writes C.J.) to Mr Bradshaw earlier in the summer suggesting measures he could take to alleviate the problem and he has taken note: licences will now be issued for up to two years, site visits will not be mandatory except for new licence applications and, best of all, licences can be issued ahead of predation rather than after. Then non of the MAJOR angling representative bodies had any input, Mr Jaqrdine? And how many clubs, groups and individuals actually have been granted the said licence? I doubt that DEFRA will have enough staff to carry out the site visits for the new system to have any real impact. It is an improvement, but please CA, don't try to tell us that you did it all on your own. Does the CA honestly believe it was the only body to write to the Minister? [ 19. September 2004, 08:25 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

I thought I was C.J. Will the real C.J. please stand up [ 19. September 2004, 08:27 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

Peter, The water is higher up, sorry. Although not closed, anglers behaviour is being watched very closely. Another in Northumberland also has the threat of closure if persistent miss use is not addressed. One water is very close to residential housing and I'm darned sure that I wouldn't like drunks, and other abusers, cavorting all night outside my home, and the rubbish that is left behind

Peter M, If it's the water that I think you are referring to, then angling HAS NOT been banned but restrictions put on it. The 'ANGLERS' have only themselves to blame through their loutish and drunken behaviour. [ 18. September 2004, 06:38 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

I would hold on to it, although I'm sure there will be plenty of tackle dealers willing to take as 'part exchange'. Many years ago I was taken in like that with a couple of Hardy fly reels. Yer lives and learns Mind you, looking back I only paid £5-00 for the two reels, floating and sinking lines, an 8ft Hardy G/F Fly rod, three boxes of flies and a shoulder bag. [ 17. September 2004, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

If a farmer has a problem with foxes, let them deal with them. They seam not to have a problem shooting a family dog if found worrying livestock. Or is that too simplistic? Or very little fun?

Mark, ONE of the CA aims, for I do not believe it has any policies, is to un seat any rural Labour MP's. Whether any on here agree with that depends on which side of the fence they stand, but don't let it pretend it is only interested in the rural community.It IS political. Read an interesting bit in the local free paper today; the local CA enlisted the help of a hunt from West Yorkshire to go after mink. Are they 'scab workers' bussed in as during the miners strike. What's wrong in supporting your LOCAL hunt's CA? Or have they already seen the way ahead. As for my comments and views on this site, they are exactly that, mine; not those of SAA or any other organisation I may be a member of. [ 17. September 2004, 09:24 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

Great result yesterday. I just wonder where Mr Jardine will hang his 'Campaign for Angling' hat now?

I well remember an old Durham farmer telling of a time when he was standing by a gate to one of his fields when the local hunt came charging into the field. Apparently their language to him was not very polite, telling him to 'F' off out of the way. That was the last time those F*****S will cross my land he said, and it was. They have such an arrogance about them, don't they! Well they DID. Alan, The only war's against anglers are in the minds of those who would encourage people to campaign against us, people like your good self. In any society we are bound to find a very small minority of idiots who have a brain no bigger than a pigeon, and you will find then in every culture world wide, but come on. Get a grip on your senses, and live in the real world. I'm not saying they don't exist,and that they will ever go away, but get things in proportion. The vulnerable have always been picked on, sadly they always will be, no matter what their activity, age or mental/physical disaility. [ 16. September 2004, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

Perhaps my 'Young Ones' L.P. will be worth something now.

I just wonder if the C.A. will still be wanting anglers support, and just where will Mr Jardine go now?

Just heard on the local news; C.A. to bring down H.V pylons neer Carlisle, such lovely, law abiding people. Bring on the charging police horses, I think not! What's happened to it's 'Lawful Protest's'? [ 15. September 2004, 08:14 AM: Message edited by: wearyone ]

Specialist Anglers; they are the anglers who fish when most sensible people will be at home, in bed. I have slept through some horrendous storms, the worse the weather, the more I enjoy it, and that's without a bivvie. Dont even own a brolli.

I was weary enough before Steve. How's the chub fishing going these days? If like mine, not very good.