Somerset in Jersey

Just found another forum in NZ mentioning saving made on factory second units with "slight cosmetic flaws" http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/forum...=15843&PN=1 look at last post... this starts to smell of problems been relocated, anyone made 2 + 2 = 4 yet ? Bad news if its correct street cred and reliability in trust of ocean has just sank like a brick to the bottom of the ocean.

http://www.gokayak.co.nz/w/view.asp?PageNo=0 seams that NZ are selling grade a factory seconds... wonder if we have been that back door? makes you wonder. why else would you sell a factory second Kayak, to me even offering and mentioning a second factory model for use on the sea is just daft.

RayJ If you have any probs with Iron stores let all us Jersey beans now as we can all put pressure on him. He's sold so many its unreal. So he must have respect. Would be good to get reports and returns policy from Ocean. Especially as some have allready been accepted back in UK and Aus this has set a principal and goal mark which should be accepted by all parties involved in sale and distribution.

just out of interest has any other models suffered this problem, and are they doing a recall? they seem to be a bit slow on the mark for me. never thought about checking my ocean but will now just in case. hate to find a problem after warrenty expires....

With that fog, hope you had your nav light on.

No she's waiting for the kenel to be deliverd by condor..... Till then the shed will do.

So we must get you a name ??? any ideas any one???? nickname required for Grant, how about Plug?

yo yet another bean yea ha, soon be a bean site but must say bean st ones guy have you found st helier yet?

newt photos, oh come, your pics bad enough...

work on the principals of reliability, power, battery and how well you will look after it remember if it gets wet wash it.

hi another jersy bean? meating prowler at grev? were you awake at stupid o clock as thats the normal prowler time. should all mee up. BTW prowler with makeral, hope you ate them before you got home LOL. nor is the freezer empty?

try and find one with at least a 5 watt output, as the power dictates the range.

What a loss! dam idiot hackers, lost some good running posts.

No your wellies would get full of water and drown the sheep...

What i cannot understand is if he made land why not just when ready walk inland and raise help? Why go back in the sea?

OK or Not ok names? Troy Tempest Atlanta Marina shaw Phones Titan or Just Stingray ?

Come on now arn't we allowed our toys, tryed to get the scaeletric on it but the cars kept on getting wet, must get the wet tyres.

Hellooooo Sailor, being on the Pink Gins with that pose or are you trying out for bondage monthly.

Nice to have you on board. Personally, being 6' 4" and 15 ish stone I have the Drifter, find it very confortable with the extrta wide seating area and not cramped at all, even more stabler than the others due to its extra width. Great working platform. I found the Prowler to narrow, and the caper just to small.

Tt Tt The Other Island Ah... At least having a guiding light on Alderney you can be given directions home.. Yes nice to see another island member, soon we will have enough to for a raft to France. What an Inter Island conest we could now have... Any takers?

Prowler cheated bought a kayak with his name allready on it LOL...

Simon, Hence my posts.

OK Spoke with the relevant agencies and departments for clarrification and guidance on the rules. The folloeing ruls apply to us from within the The Merchant Shipping (Distress Signals and Prevention of Collisions) Regulations 1996 you need to follow : rules 8, 20, 22, 25 and 30. Rule 8 Action to avoid collision (a) Any action taken to avoid collision shall be taken in accordance with the Rules of this Part and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, be positive, made in ample time and with due regard to the observance of good seamanship. ( Any alteration of course and/or speed to avoid collision shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, be large enough to be readily apparent to another vessel observing visually or by radar; a succession of small alterations of course and/or speed should be avoided. © If there is sufficient sea-room, alteration of course alone may be the most effective action to avoid a close-quarters situation provided that it is made in good time, is substantial and does not result in another close-quarters situation. (d) Action taken to avoid collision with another vessel shall be such as to result in passing at a safe distance. The effectiveness of the action shall be carefully checked until the other vessel is finally past and clear. (e) If necessary to avoid collision or allow more time to assess the situation, a vessel shall slacken her speed or take all way off by stopping or reversing her means of propulsion. (f) (i) A vessel which, by any of these Rules, is required not to impede the passage or safe passage of another vessel shall, when required by the circumstances of the case, take early action to allow sufficient sea-room for the safe passage of the other vessel. (ii) A vessel required not to impede the passage or safe passage of another vessel is not relieved of this obligation if approaching the other vessel so as to involve risk of collision and shall, when taking action, have full regard to the action which may be required by the Rules of this Part. (iii) A vessel the passage of which is not to be impeded remains fully obliged to comply with the Rules of this Part when the two vessels are approaching one another so as to involve risk of collision. PART C - LIGHTS AND SHAPES Rule 20 Application (a) Rules in this Part shall be complied with in all weathers. ( The Rules concerning lights shall be complied with from sunset to sunrise and during such times no other lights shall be exhibited, except such lights as cannot be mistaken for the lights specified in these Rules or do not impair their visibility or distinctive character, or interfere with the keeping of a proper look-out. © The lights prescribed by these Rules shall, if carried, also be exhibited from sunrise to sunset in restricted visibility and may be exhibited in all other circumstances when it is deemed necessary. (d) The Rules concerning shapes shall be complied with by day. (e) The lights and shapes specified in these Rules shall comply with the provisions of Annex I to these Regulations. Rule 22 Visibility of lights The lights prescribed in these Rules shall have an intensity as specified in Section 8 of Annex I to these Regulations so as to be visible at the following minimum ranges: (a) In vessels of 50 metres or more in length: - a masthead light, 6 miles; - a sidelight, 3 miles; - a stern light, 3 miles; - a towing light, 3 miles; - a white, red, green or yellow all-round light, 3 miles. ( In vessels of 12 metres or more in length but less than 50 metres in length: - a masthead light, 5 miles; except that where the length of the vessel is less than 20 metres, 3 miles; - a sidelight, 2 miles; - a sternlight, 2 miles; - a towing light, 2 miles; - a white, red, green or yellow all-round light, 2 miles. © In vessels of less than 12 metres in length: - a masthead light, 2 miles; - a sidelight, 1 mile; - a sternlight, 2 miles; - a towing light, 2 miles - a white, red, green or yellow all-round light, 2 miles. (d) In inconspicuous, partly submerged vessels or objects being towed: - a white all-round light, 3 miles. Rule 25 Sailing vessels underway and vessels under oars (a) A sailing vessel underway shall exhibit: (i) sidelights; (ii) a sternlight. ( In a sailing vessel of less than 20 metres in length the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule may be combined in one lantern carried at or near the top of the mast where it can best be seen. © A sailing vessel underway may, in addition to the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule, exhibit at or near the top of the mast, where they can best be seen, two all-round lights in a vertical line, the upper being red and the lower green, but these lights shall not be exhibited in conjunction with the combined lantern permitted by paragraph ( of this Rule. (d) (i) A sailing vessel of less than 7 metres in length shall, if practicable, exhibit the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) or ( of this Rule, but if she does not, she shall have ready at hand an electric torch or lighted lantern showing a white light which shall be exhibited in sufficient time to prevent collision. (ii) A vessel under oars may exhibit the lights prescribed in this Rule for sailing vessels, but if she does not, she shall have ready at hand an electric torch or lighted lantern showing a white light which shall be exhibited in sufficient time to prevent collision. (e) A vessel proceeding under sail when also being propelled by machinery shall exhibit forward where it can best be seen a conical shape, apex downwards. Rule 30 Anchored vessels and vessels aground (a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be seen: (i) in the fore part, an all-round white light or one ball; (ii) at or near the stern and at a lower level than the light prescribed in sub-paragraph (i), an all-round white light. ( A vessel of less than 50 metres in length may exhibit an all-round white light where it can best be seen instead of the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule. © A vessel at anchor may, and a vessel of 100 metres and more in length shall, also use the available working or equivalent lights to illuminate her decks. (d) A vessel aground shall exhibit the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) or ( of this Rule and in addition, where they can best be seen: (i) two all-round red lights in a vertical line; (ii) three balls in a vertical line. (e) A vessel of less than 7 metres in length, when at anchor, not in or near a narrow channel, fairway or anchorage, or where other vessels normally navigate, shall not be required to exhibit the lights or shape prescribed in paragraphs (a) and ( of this Rule. (f) A vessel of less than 12 metres in length, when aground, shall not be required to exhibit the lights or shapes prescribed in sub-paragraphs (d) (i) and (ii) of this Rule. In essance when traveling after sunset and before sunrise we need to display an allround white light when:- Crossing channels, using navigatable waters, at anchor rule 25 states that if not you must have a allround light / tourch that can be used in sufficient time to prevent a collision, the thoughts on this rule 25 was how long would it take to get it out and for you to notice the problem existed. If you had a pole mounted lamp this would always be on so no problem. if you want a copy of the rules which i suggest we all have go to: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/msn_1781-2.pdf All who i spoke with said in essance be seen and be safe, which i fully agree with.

Great safety is the most important thing, would hate to see a member miss a record catch.

does any one know the action of drilling or gluing has on the waranty?