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[Tigger]

Tigger, I didn't want to sound so harsh but I'm afraid that's about it in this case!

 

 

Not being harsh Toady just stating an opinion. Might just save someone from waseting their hard earned reddies.

I'd say it's better to save up a few bob and get something worth while rather than buy rubbish that will most likely give a wrong impression of centrepin fishing and put a person off using a pin altogether.

[Dick Dastardly]

Ive always advised "buy as best as you can afford" for most tackle.Firstly as said poor gear will give you the wrong impression,second you will eventually want to "up grade" and last but not least you can always sell good gear easily and crap gear you cant.

[lutra]

I must say as someone who does a good bit of long trotting in quite fast water during the warmer months, I'm rather interested to hear how good these large (6") pins are. Fishing fast runs more often than not sees me using heavy floats and holding back quite hard. Not the kind of fishing that needs a super smooth running pin.

 

They may not be the best pins in the world and may not be any good for all round pin fishing, but surly its worth checking them out at that price as they maybe good for some jobs.

 

Does a large pin need to be as free running as a smaller one?

[Dick Dastardly]

Ive never really thought about it to be honest Brian.All a larger diameter pin to me has ever meant is a faster retrieve.

[Rusty]

Ive always advised "buy as best as you can afford" for most tackle.

 

I agree with that philosophy Budgie it's my mantra too. The angle I'm coming from is that somebody is trying a new method, one that not everybody likes or gets on with, it's not like a familiar fixed spool reel is being replaced. The minimum investment for a new known brand 'pin is what £70(?) and if re-sold second hand it'll be less than that so either way if Viney doesn't take to it there's a cost.

 

I don't think it'll form a lasting impression of trotting if the reel is no good, it's a bargain basement £15 gamble. I dare say once Viney can get to a venue he'll let us know how it goes.

[viney]

Viney, if it does turn out to be crap give me shout and you can borrow one of my reels. I guess you're fairly local if you're fishing that stretch.

 

 

thank you that would be much appreciated! yeah i live in hermitage but have an agreement with the better half that i can go fishing every sunday

at the moment this weekend isnt looking good with more snow forecast saturday/sunday and still snowing now!

[Tigger]

I must say as someone who does a good bit of long trotting in quite fast water during the warmer months, I'm rather interested to hear how good these large (6") pins are. Fishing fast runs more often than not sees me using heavy floats and holding back quite hard. Not the kind of fishing that needs a super smooth running pin.

 

They may not be the best pins in the world and may not be any good for all round pin fishing, but surly its worth checking them out at that price as they maybe good for some jobs.

 

Does a large pin need to be as free running as a smaller one?

 

 

Brian, a larger CP will most likey take more flow/inertia to start it off and then need more slowing down when it gets going. If you don't like to continually slow your drum down manually then you most likely need a pin with a drag system that you can set to let your reel drum rotate at a constant speed in any chosen swim/flow. The youngs range have a good micro drag system along with quite a few other makes of reel. Personally I prefer to use my thumb, but it's good to have it there just incase you want it.

Edited January 6, 2010 by Tigger

[Dick Dastardly]

I agree with that philosophy Budgie it's my mantra too. The angle I'm coming from is that somebody is trying a new method, one that not everybody likes or gets on with, it's not like a familiar fixed spool reel is being replaced. The minimum investment for a new known brand 'pin is what £70(?) and if re-sold second hand it'll be less than that so either way if Viney doesn't take to it there's a cost.

 

I don't think it'll form a lasting impression of trotting if the reel is no good, it's a bargain basement £15 gamble. I dare say once Viney can get to a venue he'll let us know how it goes.

 

Fair comments Rusty.Ultimately the ideal situation is to "try before you buy"not often possible through the trade unfortunately (I sold a lot of top end Tournament level Beach rods and funny enough not so specialist casting rods in the 90's by always having a couple of each blank made up for people to actually go over the road and cast/fish with before parting with mega bucks!) But if you have a mate with the gear or some one who offered to loan you theirs then take advantage of it!

 

As my dealings with high spec beach rods proved for an individual "top of the range", "most expensive" doesnt always prove to be the best!

[Dick Dastardly]

Brian, a larger CP will most likey take more flow/inertia to start it off and then need more slowing down when it gets going. If you don't like to continually slow your drum down manually then you most likely need a pin with a drag system that you can set to let your reel drum rotate at a constant speed in any chosen swim/flow. The youngs range have a good micro drag system along with quite a few other makes of reel. Personally I prefer to use my thumb, but it's good to have it there just incase you want it.

 

In reflection another thing Ive found is that larger diameter pins cast further than smaller ones! Totally irelevant if you are trotting though!

[lutra]

Brian, a larger CP will most likey take more flow/inertia to start it off and then need more slowing down when it gets going.

If its only the extra weight of the larger spool that was making start up reluctant that wouldn't worry me to much as a twitch of the rod tip or a nudge with the thumb would soon set things going in faster water.

 

The thing that i was wondering about is would the larger diameter not give better leverage and counter out any extra weight or maybe even a poorer quality bearing?

 

If you don't like to continually slow your drum down manually then you most likely need a pin with a drag system that you can set to let your reel drum rotate at a constant speed in any chosen swim/flow. The youngs range have a good micro drag system along with quite a few other makes of reel. Personally I prefer to use my thumb, but it's good to have it there just incase you want it.

Like you I'm happy to be in control with my thumb as it gives me the ability to hold back as and when i like.