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One of my friends dad is part of a syndicate that manages some small pools in a farmers field, i managed to talk him into getting me a permit reasonably priced at £6 for the rest of the year,

 

so me and one of the lads i go fishing with took a ride out to have a look at the ponds which arent very big having about 10 pegs each, but there was about 5 large carp under the surface which looked to be in there 20s(lb)

 

i asked the friends dad who manages the fishing and he said that they was stocked in there years ago and grew that big in the pond, but the fish in there are not fed by pellet and only get natural food, plus the pond is tiny so i find it hard that these fish have grew to such sizes in that water with its limited food and space,

 

does anyone have an idea if its possible for them to have gotten to that size in such a small pond ?

 

i personally suspect they have came from some other fishery late one night

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There may be more natural food than you would expect and carp are really good and locating it so that might not be a limiting factor. The carp in my area never see offerings from anglers and do well on what they can find & eat.

 

If the total carp population is very low, a small water can certainly produce some largish fish over time and the low spawning rate in the UK helps keep populations low.

 

You could be exactly right about where the fish came from but they could equally have grown up in that pond. If there are crayfish or snails or other high protein foods in the water, it becomes more likely that the carp are local rather than a midnight stocking.

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I find it sad that 5 20lb fish are in a small pond and are fished for, They must get hauled out all the time, were is the joy in catching these fish :angry:

Jasper Carrot On birmingham city

" You lose some you draw some"

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I find it sad that 5 20lb fish are in a small pond and are fished for, They must get hauled out all the time, were is the joy in catching these fish :angry:

 

there arent that many people allowed to fish the ponds its a private pond, and its in the middle of nowhere so i doubt they get fished for that much. the main reason i wanted a permit is to escape all the extra people on the bank this weather.

 

if they have grown to that size in that water then they are probably happy enough, its just worrying if they have been taken from a larger water and havent got enough food or space

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bluerinse - if you would not enjoy it, by all means don't do it.

 

However, if others enjoy it, why try to dampen their fun?

 

Almost all the lakes and rivers in the UK are relatively small but UK anglers manage to enjoy their fishing quite well.

" My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!" - Harry Truman, 33rd US President

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bluerinse - if you would not enjoy it, by all means don't do it.

 

However, if others enjoy it, why try to dampen their fun?

 

Almost all the lakes and rivers in the UK are relatively small but UK anglers manage to enjoy their fishing quite well.

 

I was not trying to dampen anyone’s fun; it just seems an un-natural set up

 

And I m not sure I understand your generalisation on UK waters being small.

I am referring to a water that has been stocked with 5 big carp which would not happen naturally, perhaps my mental picture is all wrong, but it seems a really odd fishery

 

I’m allowed an opinion I presume!!

Jasper Carrot On birmingham city

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You are certainly allowed an opinion, as am I. Had you not been allowed, I'd simply have deleted your post rather than responding to it.

 

What I actually wrote was, "Almost all the lakes and rivers in the UK are relatively small ", and by comparison to waters in other countries they are with the exception of some in the Lake District.

 

Small is very much a matter of what you are accustomed to. I'm not sure that a water that accommodates 10 pegs is really that small and please bear in mind that I consider 1000 acres a reasonable size lake but certainly not large.

 

At any rate, this is way off topic to the original question so how about we just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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I see no reason why they may not be natural fish. As anyone who has kept carp in a small garden pond will tell you, they can grow to a farily large size despite been in a very small volume of water.

 

And as Newt pointed out there may well be enough natural food sources to help them pack on weight.

 

Good luck with trying to catch them, they may turn out to be a bit of a challenge and may not get hauled out as often as some people may think.

Stephen

 

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