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It's odd, I have no qualms about live baits and happy to rig up big Bonito and Tuna that do react to being used. But a dead Skimmer or Perch :D

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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I never knew they sold perch and bream dead-baits in shops? I want to say there is something wrong with that but i cant actually think of a reason why it should be so i'll keep quiet!

 

I dont fish for pike and dont use deads or livebaits for perch either, i expect one day i will try for pike and at that point i will have no problem using a small roach or minnow as live or deadbait but i dont think i could put anything else on!

 

Funny how peoples morals/opinions differ in these things. I have no problem with people using dead or livebaits but i just dont know if i could put a half a pound live perch on my hook and feel right about it. I know that it is wrong i feel like that about a perch but not about a minnow but its just my opinion

As famous fisherman John Gierach once said "I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I like fishing because it's the one thing I can think of that probably doesn't."

 

 

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My favorite technique i just luurve it when that pike floats dissapears as for a few seconds you don`t know if its 2lb or 20 ,have no qualms or soul searching about using any fish Roach/Rudd/Bream whatever but truth be told its normally what i manage to catch rather than any preferance .

Need to get out and have a go soon so will see what the Thames looks like this weekend Steve.

We are not putting it back it is a lump now put that curry down and go and get the scales

have I told you abouit the cruise control on my Volvo ,,,,,,,bla bla bla Barder rod has it come yet?? and don`t even start me on Chris Lythe :bleh::icecream:

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The whole one-species-over-another is kind of like why you would eat pigs, chickens, cows and sheep but not cats, dogs, horses etc.

 

I saw fresh mirror carp on the fishmonger's counter in Morrisons t'other day and have to say it kind of took me by surprise, but on reflection (no pun intended), it's no different to a trout, salmon, herring blah blah.

 

Then there is vermin - which species is it ok to shoot/poison? Rats - Yes. Mice - Yes. Rabbits- Yes. Squirrels? err.... Cute little birdies? umm..... Foxes? Yeah we can kill them so long as you don't tear them to bits with dogs.

 

If it's legal to do it, by all means do so but use your own discretion. I think you'd struggle to find a genuine "angler" that's ever put anything even nearing specimen size on a hook to catch something else.

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The whole one-species-over-another is kind of like why you would eat pigs, chickens, cows and sheep but not cats, dogs, horses etc.

 

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I've eaten all you mention and a whole lot more squirrels, guinea pigs, hedgehogs, snakes, breast of crows and on and on, the French eat Horses, the Asian people eat cats and dogs, where's the problem eating something

 

I saw fresh mirror carp on the fishmonger's counter in Morrisons t'other day and have to say it kind of took me by surprise, but on reflection (no pun intended), it's no different to a trout, salmon, herring blah blah.

 

Then there is vermin - which species is it ok to shoot/poison? Rats - Yes. Mice - Yes. Rabbits- Yes. Squirrels? err.... Cute little birdies? umm..... Foxes? Yeah we can kill them so long as you don't tear them to bits with dogs.

 

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Prevented by noisy minority action groups, probably the same people who will eventually stop you all fishing

 

If it's legal to do it, by all means do so but use your own discretion. I think you'd struggle to find a genuine "angler" that's ever put anything even nearing specimen size on a hook to catch something else.

 

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I was thinking about going Great White hunting...how tall/big are you?... :bigemo_harabe_net-163: :bigemo_harabe_net-163: :bigemo_harabe_net-163:

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Always fancied using goldfish but can't bring myself to do it. My local lake has catfish in it, the owner put a couple of hundred tench in it and they disappeared in about 3 weeks, still could never use a tench as live bait for them though

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I will personally only use dead-baits. And they must not be U.K course fish

 

It feels wrong using Perch/Gudgeon/Roach ect: on trebles to me.... I have nothing against others doing that (Their choice!) But for me I stick mainly to Lures/Spinners... And occasionally dead-baits like Sprats for my rare pike expeditions.

 

It is of course all subjective to personal opinion, not objective :D

Species Caught 2011: Mirror Carp, Barbel, Ide, Rudd, Roach, Bleak, Perch, Bream,

 

Species Caught 2010: Perch, Pike, Roach, Rudd, Bleak, Bream, Gudgeon, Ruffe, Ide, Tench, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Barbel, Chub, F1, Crusian Carp, Goldfish

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Always fancied using goldfish but can't bring myself to do it. My local lake has catfish in it, the owner put a couple of hundred tench in it and they disappeared in about 3 weeks, still could never use a tench as live bait for them though

 

 

I wouldnt bother with any ornementals (all though small ghost carp arnt to bad) as most are very delicate and soon die.Thousands of years of inbreeding no doubt, Tench on the other hand......... possibly my favourite UK cat bait.

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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They just faced off having a gurning competition, the shark lost.... :bigemo_harabe_net-163::bigemo_harabe_net-163::bigemo_harabe_net-163:

 

On topic, I use whatever I can catch in the vicinity, it makes sense. If there's a lot of them so that even I can catch, then it is most probably what Mrs Pike and the Pickerels are eyeing up for noms. However I only ever hook them in the lip and use for about an hour on a big single, if nowt, it gets released and replaced. I find it unnecessary to impale them in the flank. My attempt at a sporting chance I guess.

 

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This Years' Targets:- As many species by lure as possible. Preferably via Kayak. 15lb+ Pike on Lure...

Species Caught 2012- Pike, Perch.

Kayak Launches- Fresh-8 Salt- 0

Kayak Captures- 14 Pike, 1 Perch.

 

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