Distance Carping

[trent.barbeler]

Dear Rob,

 

Too right mate!

 

I asked some good buddy mates in US Immigration to keep Fenboy if they came across him and they agreed if I sent them a case of "Old Peculiar" each for the favour. Blow me down. They spotted "Old Peculiar" going through customs and decided to throw back "Old Peculiar" to the Brits whilst resisting receiving said cases of "Old Peculiar" for a "bridge to far" favour in return.

 

Peculiar world we live in ain't it?

 

Regards,

 

Lee.

[Peter Sharpe]

I think I must use pretty much the same stance as Wordbender. If the target is at 12 o'clock my chest will be pointing towards 5 and the tip of the rod is right around between 6 and 7. I hold the line in a crooked index finger, never trapping it at all. I always take a lot of trouble to get just the right drop, then start the lead swinging. It's difficult to define the moment, but when it is on its way outwards, I bring the rod forward towards the target just as the line to the lead is about at full stretch, using my waist for power almost as much as my arms. Something I always do without fail, is to finger the spool to take the slack out of the line in the last few yards before it hits the water. This also prevents those horrible thudding explosions you hear when people don't do this.

I'm sure the real pendulum casters always used to power into the cast when the lead was actually swinging inwards rather than outwards, but I could never quite get my head around that.

[poledark]

Peter, the pendulum cast is started as the weight "pauses" at the top of the inward swing.

 

Den

[Peter Waller]

I can see it now, fishing is slow, instead of bait boat regattas we'll have distance casting comps!!

[Dick Dastardly]

Carp rod v Tournement casting rod? I would sugest that the real key to LDC is a good technique.If you take an average caster and give him a top range casting rod he will inevitably not be able to cast with it as far as he can with his normal outfit.Give the casting rod to a man who can and he will put a lead a long way.A few years ago there was a bit of a revival in the popularity of the 4ozs event (most tournement casting revolves around 150gms/5 1/4ozs)a lot of casters startd using some of the more extreme distance carp rods.

Most tornements are based on 0.35 mm DIA mainline being used as well.Long time since I cast competitively and even when I did I wasnt much good,but I reckon I could break any of the class records.....if I could us a big pit style real loaded with 3lb main line!

[wunnus]

Dont you need a pair of red flags for penduluum casting?

[Rob Ward]

wunnus:

Distance cast ... just wang it out.

 

Plenty of weight gives plenty of distance and plenty big splash. Then wait for anything in that area to settle down.

 

Next problem... there will be a delay in striking (as compared to a nearby cast), so dont forget the binoculars.

Braid will be in closer contact but heavier weight means more mass to deaden the initial impact. So use big barbed hooks to ensure that the take is there long enough for you.

 

Big weight, braid, big barbed hook and long distance, and then you have damaged carp.

Are you the World Champion at talking utter drivel or are you just trying to get a rise, if so - must try harder.

 

[ 30. April 2004, 09:05 AM: Message edited by: Rob Ward ]

[Wordbender]

wunnus:

 

Big weight, braid, big barbed hook and long distance, and then you have damaged carp.

Really? I must've been VERY lucky so far, then, mate.

 

I've caught plenty of carp at 100-plus yards on a size 4, with a 4oz lead, braided leader and mainline, all launched on a 3.5 test rod. Nothing untoward about any of them as far as my experience goes. What am I doing wrong?

 

A little delicacy on the drag at close quarters is all that's needed with long range setups - plus the usual fish-welfare considerations, of course.

 

Terry

[Rob Ward]

Exactly, Terry.

 

Although I've not fished at that sort of distance before I know others that do with no detriment to the Carp.

 

[ 30. April 2004, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: Rob Ward ]

[The Diamond Geezer]

quote:

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Originally posted by Rob Ward:

 

I'll be using .... 22lb Dynon SK braid ..

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Rob,

 

A little thing .. but one that helps a lot IMHO ... even when you're using braid:-

 

Use a line-lube ! RH's Slick Horizon (like rocking-horse manure to find now ), or Kryston Greased Lightning (sadly the cost's extortionate ), or a simple domestic water-based (got to watch some of the solvents used in some polishes) spray polish etc

 

OK, they may have been mainly designed for monos but they work with braids too. I never leave home without some .... and I keep the line on the spools soaked all the time when I'm not fishing.

 

DG

 

[ 30. April 2004, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: The Diamond Geezer ]