Stop HS2 and save Savay

[AndyMc]

We have more high speed trains than anywhere else in Europe. It is used by everybody.

All state owned and cheap. I can buy a ticket online for Valencia-Madrid for around 35€.

95 mins between the two cities at 330 Km/hr.

Immaculatly clean, free internet on the train.....Even the ordanairy busses that drive around Madrid have free internet though........

 

And so far we british have only about 72 miles of it. Hardly a snip compared to most other countries. We have a lot of catching up to do. I hear that Australia are making plans to create further high speed train lines as they see the sense in investing in alternative means of travel for the future. KOALA TEA!

[AndyMc]

I see our masters will have a say in this argument and insist that hs2 will be good for us or else.

 

http://travel.aol.co.uk/2011/04/19/eu-plan...hts-altogether/

 

 

Great news and a great link. An even louder voice supporting moves to using high speed rail.

[AndyMc]

Here's another link, over 100 destinations except birmingham. Perhaps europe don't have butterflies, carp ponds etc.

 

http://www.b-europe.co.uk/Travel

 

 

Looks like Milton keynes ...neighbouring county to Buckinghamshire ... is now also fully supporting proposals. That's a kick in the teeth for the load minority in Bucks.

Perhaps common sense will win through in the end. Read on:

 

Published on Wednesday 13 April 2011 16:41

 

PROTESTORS with placards and signs descended on Milton Keynes Central station on Friday to oppose plans for the High Speed Rail Link HS2.

 

The protest was organised by the South Northants Action Group with the aim of warning commuters of the negative aspects of having a new high speed rail link between London and Birmingham.

 

They feel that putting in the extra high speed platforms would mean rebuilding Euston, moving all the platforms round and changing the configuration of the tracks outside the station.

 

They also feel that there will be fewer long distance trains from the city and no high speed rail station in Milton Keynes either.

 

But city MPs claim commuters are set to benefit from the new high speed link between London and Birmingham.

 

And research has shown that the new high speed rail line could nearly double the number of trains from the city to London – which is welcome news for commuters.

 

Network Rail has projected that the West Coast Main Line will reach full capacity by 2024 and the first phase of HS2, from London to the West Midlands, would free up space for a significant increase in commuter, regional and freight services.

 

MP for Milton Keynes North, Mark Lancaster, said: “This research is fantastic news for the commuters of Milton Keynes, who literally cannot stand having to stand for their journey to work every single day, while paying thousands of pounds for the privilege.

 

“It is great to see the figures reinforcing what we have been told about HS2. It’s about time Milton Keynes got a better deal but equally the route itself needs to be the right one for the country.”

 

Transport secretary Philip Hammond singled out Milton Keynes as the ultimate beneficiary of such a scheme.

 

He said: “Our proposed new high speed rail network would free up a huge amount of space on current railways for more trains to operate.

 

“Passengers in some towns like Milton Keynes could see a near doubling in the number of trains from their station to London because of HS2.”

[AndyMc]

72% of Birmingham and Solihull firms back high speed rail link

 

Birmingham Post

 

Spot on. And that's only part of it my dear friend. Read on:

 

"Chamber backs Core City support for HS2 Consultation

Nottingham is one of 11 of the UK's most economically-important cities to come out in strong support of High Speed Two, the first phase of developing a High Speed Rail network for the UK.

The collective view is that there is significant evidence that HSR will create jobs, economic growth and reduce carbon emissions in the long term.

Nottingham has joined England's other Core Cities (Birmingham, Bristol, Liverpool, Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle and Sheffield), together with Cardiff, Edinburgh and Glasgow in releasing a joint position statement signed by the Leaders of the 11 city authorities and senior business figures, setting out the economic and environmental case for a full High Speed Rail network for the UK.

Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire Chamber of Commerce Chief Executive George Cowcher signed the document on behalf of the private sector in Nottingham.

The 11 cities believe HS2 is a cross-party agenda and are calling for national and local support from communities and businesses.

The first phase runs between London Euston and the West Midlands, but the view of the core cities is that the country will only reap the economic and environmental benefits of HSR if the full proposed national network is developed.

The Chamber estimates that an East Midlands spur of the High Speed Rail network could bring economic benefits of more than £3.8n to the region.

Meanwhile, Chamber research has found that 97% of local businesses think the local economy would benefit from plans to bring the network to the region, while 88% of firms are in favour of a UK-wide High-Speed Rail network.

Mr Cowcher said: "The Chamber has long campaigned for a comprehensive High-Speed Rail network which services the East Midlands and is delighted to add its full support to this new Core Cities statement.

"Clearly, we need good transport links here in the region and the Chamber feels that High Speed Rail will be the best way of connecting businesses in Nottinghamshire with London, other key UK cities and Europe".

 

 

Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees. Im not sure what planet these 'no to HS2' NIMBYS are on.

[AndyMc]

Centro backs High Speed Two

 

 

LINK

 

 

Nice one mate.

SAY YES TO HS2

[AndyMc]

Is'nt Savay lakes a recently dug man mad lake complex?

 

 

I wouldn't say it was recent. But it certainly is the result of major extraction and major damage to this area. It must have been a right eye sore at the time of working.

Its funny that most of the lakes we all fish are the result of some previous damage.

It wouldn't suprise me if the construction of HS2 results in the creation some fishing havens for the future too.

[captain cojones]

Captian, you said it, "There all state owned" almost certainly very heavily sibsidised by the national government or the EU, ours won't.

 

Neither subsidise. All national funding stopped in 2010 for instance.

 

http://www.cincodias.com/articulo/empresas...23cdscdiemp_18/

 

RENFE is forecast to make a 300 million€ profit by 2014.

As i said before, for every 1€ invested 2€ of benefit has been created

I think the railways are just better run here.

[Stop HS2]

Looks like Milton keynes ...neighbouring county to Buckinghamshire ... is now also fully supporting proposals. That's a kick in the teeth for the load minority in Bucks.

Perhaps common sense will win through in the end. Read on:

 

Published on Wednesday 13 April 2011 16:41

 

PROTESTORS with placards and signs descended on Milton Keynes Central station on Friday to oppose plans for the High Speed Rail Link HS2.

 

The protest was organised by the South Northants Action Group with the aim of warning commuters of the negative aspects of having a new high speed rail link between London and Birmingham.

 

They feel that putting in the extra high speed platforms would mean rebuilding Euston, moving all the platforms round and changing the configuration of the tracks outside the station.

 

They also feel that there will be fewer long distance trains from the city and no high speed rail station in Milton Keynes either.

 

But city MPs claim commuters are set to benefit from the new high speed link between London and Birmingham.

 

And research has shown that the new high speed rail line could nearly double the number of trains from the city to London – which is welcome news for commuters.

 

Network Rail has projected that the West Coast Main Line will reach full capacity by 2024 and the first phase of HS2, from London to the West Midlands, would free up space for a significant increase in commuter, regional and freight services.

 

MP for Milton Keynes North, Mark Lancaster, said: “This research is fantastic news for the commuters of Milton Keynes, who literally cannot stand having to stand for their journey to work every single day, while paying thousands of pounds for the privilege.

 

“It is great to see the figures reinforcing what we have been told about HS2. It’s about time Milton Keynes got a better deal but equally the route itself needs to be the right one for the country.”

 

Transport secretary Philip Hammond singled out Milton Keynes as the ultimate beneficiary of such a scheme.

 

He said: “Our proposed new high speed rail network would free up a huge amount of space on current railways for more trains to operate.

 

“Passengers in some towns like Milton Keynes could see a near doubling in the number of trains from their station to London because of HS2.”

http://stophs2.org/news/2044-mk-wolverhampton

[Stop HS2]

Looks like Milton keynes ...neighbouring county to Buckinghamshire ... is now also fully supporting proposals. That's a kick in the teeth for the load minority in Bucks.

Perhaps common sense will win through in the end. Read on:

 

Published on Wednesday 13 April 2011 16:41

 

PROTESTORS with placards and signs descended on Milton Keynes Central station on Friday to oppose plans for the High Speed Rail Link HS2.

 

The protest was organised by the South Northants Action Group with the aim of warning commuters of the negative aspects of having a new high speed rail link between London and Birmingham.

 

They feel that putting in the extra high speed platforms would mean rebuilding Euston, moving all the platforms round and changing the configuration of the tracks outside the station.

 

They also feel that there will be fewer long distance trains from the city and no high speed rail station in Milton Keynes either.

 

But city MPs claim commuters are set to benefit from the new high speed link between London and Birmingham.

 

And research has shown that the new high speed rail line could nearly double the number of trains from the city to London – which is welcome news for commuters.

 

Network Rail has projected that the West Coast Main Line will reach full capacity by 2024 and the first phase of HS2, from London to the West Midlands, would free up space for a significant increase in commuter, regional and freight services.

 

MP for Milton Keynes North, Mark Lancaster, said: “This research is fantastic news for the commuters of Milton Keynes, who literally cannot stand having to stand for their journey to work every single day, while paying thousands of pounds for the privilege.

 

“It is great to see the figures reinforcing what we have been told about HS2. It’s about time Milton Keynes got a better deal but equally the route itself needs to be the right one for the country.”

 

Transport secretary Philip Hammond singled out Milton Keynes as the ultimate beneficiary of such a scheme.

 

He said: “Our proposed new high speed rail network would free up a huge amount of space on current railways for more trains to operate.

 

“Passengers in some towns like Milton Keynes could see a near doubling in the number of trains from their station to London because of HS2.”

http://stophs2.org/news/2044-mk-wolverhampton

[barry luxton]

http://stophs2.org/news/2044-mk-wolverhampton

Thanks for the link Stoppo, i have added a small comment and hope the mods allow it. Much obliged