Yeast protein concentrate in carp diets

[Elton]

The bait gurus out there may find some bits of interest in this study, especially if fishmeal prices soar:

 

http://www.allaboutfeed.net/news/research-...iets-12565.html

[Elton]

Another piece of interest:

 

http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...h_industry.html

[Dick Dastardly]

PYM (Phillips Yeast Mix) which was/is available from pet shops as a cage bird conditioner was a great additive in early HP baits.

[Phone]

BUDGIE,

 

Brewers yeast (and in fact any one of thousands of yeasts) are really good additives. I can't say I've seen or used yeast as the primary source of protein that I can remember. Don't know why it wouldn't work though (?). Most sources of protein are just fine for carp. I'm all in for the guy.

 

The only problem I could forsee is the possibility of toxins. It's pretty easy for yeasts to become contaminated.

 

Rather than "bait" I could see this being a more successful venture as a source of protein for the "food fish" industry.

 

What little dab of the "fishmeal" industry we use in the bait business is a drop in the bucket. Bait guys really like the good stuff to begin with anyway (70% protein fishmeal powder).

 

Phone

(The second article is a "ocean food fish article")

[poledark]

PYM....Phillips yeast mix...........food grade...quite tasty on a salad....almost (almost) one of the basic in my home rolled baits.

 

Holland and Barrett sell it.

 

Makes a lovely paste wrap as well

 

Barbel love it

 

Carp are pretty partial to it

 

Quite useful if you wet a boily and then roll it in PYM and allow to dry (nod nod, wink wink)

 

Den

[poledark]

Just a further comment...anyone heard of a guy called Fred Wilton? NO? well he started the bait/boily revolution. He based his baits on PYM. $0 years ago? " I was there"

 

High protein and all that jazz

 

Den

[Dick Dastardly]

Just a further comment...anyone heard of a guy called Fred Wilton? NO? well he started the bait/boily revolution. He based his baits on PYM. $0 years ago? " I was there"

 

High protein and all that jazz

 

Den

 

 

I doubt many on the "serious" carp sites would have done! but I reckon a few on here will have.Its not an age thing either just that like most of society these days modern carpers dont seem interested in the history/development of the sport.

 

Most interesting thing thing (IMO) that Fred ever said was "Maybe,just maybe my theories are just a load of old bull and the real reason carp eat HP baits is they simply like the taste of milk proteins"!

 

Interesting your comments about using PYM in other ways than just part of a boilie/paste mix. I still think it rates as one of the top additives of all time and remember fondly the days when bait ingredients were sourced from pet food shops,health food shops and your local "Paki" shop!............................all strangely far cheaper than they are from today's tackle shops. Mind you how many still sell ingredients or is it just bait and the odd base mix amongst the thousands of flavourings? (and what is that about? why do shops stock shelves and shelves of flavours but no ingredients?)