Dunk Fairley 0 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Did the fish come from a shallow water? If it did, then it could well be a slim girly, possibly shortly after spawning. Dunk Fairley Fighting for anglers' rights - Join SAA today at http://www.saauk.org Link to post Share on other sites
Anderoo 394 Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 Thanks everyone. It's a young fish from deepish (about 8') water. It was caught well before spawning, but when all the other females I caught were heavy with spawn. At the time I thought it was a female which was yet to fill up or had somehow spawned very early. There's a reason I didn't say what it weighed! I don't have separate male and female tench 'PBs' though, so I'm not trying to up a PB. Just interested, as I can't say either way. If it was a male, it was very big. If it was a female, when fully in spawn it would also be very big! Here a picture from the other side: And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Dastardly 88 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 You see, the 'muscles' that are normally seen just above the ventral (pelvic) fins are the male reproductive organs and develop as the fish matures. Regards, Steve C. Thanks Steve another thing Ive learned. And thats my "non indicative opinion"! Link to post Share on other sites
Kappa 77 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 You see, the 'muscles' that are normally seen just above the ventral (pelvic) fins are the male reproductive organs and develop as the fish matures. Thats what I thought! given the size of this fish though I think it must be mature! On that note I can't decide which sex it is as either one would make this fishes weight obsene! Rich Link to post Share on other sites
oneillbox 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 i am 100% definate that it is a male fish, the fins are the give away, the pronounced muscles are only visible in about 90% of male fish, but the female NEVER has male fin shape, this is 100% definate a male !! Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Dastardly 88 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 i am 100% definate that it is a male fish, the fins are the give away, the pronounced muscles are only visible in about 90% of male fish, but the female NEVER has male fin shape, this is 100% definate a male !! So the "males" that dont show these "muscles" havnt reached sexual maturity for some reason then? And thats my "non indicative opinion"! Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Dan 0 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 gay tench? Link to post Share on other sites
Anderoo 394 Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Steve Burke had a secret 3rd option - sterile female? And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tigger Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 this is 100% definate a male !! Without a doubt. If you look at Tincatincas male tench he caught at the Wingham fish in appart from the swollen sexual organs the fish are very similar. The Pelvic fins on a male tench are thicker and bigger than the female and are very close to the anal fin. The females pelvic and anal fin are much further appart. Link to post Share on other sites
Kappa 77 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Sorry for bringing up an old topic. I'm reading Len Head's book 'Tench'. He mentions captures of hermaphrodite tench, I reckon this tench is one. Interestingly he mentions some can spawn e.g. The record male from Bures (not sure when) was caught and witnessed by several Tenchfishers members and pronounced male as it had all the accepted male features. Yet the next year the same fish was caught again but this time full of spawn! Of course some species can actually change sex too so maybe that can happen in tench? Rich Link to post Share on other sites
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