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i'm not sure someone is selling "your" pike ,rather they are selling their pike if its a pond or enclosed water ."you" pay to fish you don't own them you sort of rent them for the time you catch them to the time you release them ;)

 

Very true, But who owns fish in a canal? If I am reading the article right, it sounds like one of the clubs in question Scunthorpe and District AA removed 76 Pike from a canal on their book and sold them to a commercial.

 

I understand that Fenton & District AA had contractors remove 400lb of Pike from the Stainforth & Keadby Canal and apparently moved to an unnamed still water. This is all rumour and hearsay and who knows might not even be true.

 

I kind of understand the idea of fish in still water as being some ones but did not know or think clubs owned the fish in stretches of canal. I do wonder whether these and similar clubs have Pike problems or they have just found a new revenue stream. So who's Pike are they really selling?

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Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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A FoIA request to the EA asking for details of Section 39 consents for the relocation of pike in the last few years should answer all the questions other that the motivation of the suppliers.

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Species caught in 2020: Barbel. European Eel. Bleak. Perch. Pike.

Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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"you" pay to fish you don't own them you sort of rent them for the time you catch them to the time you release them ;)

 

 

I do like how you have put that. :)

 

I don't see the pike I fish for as being owned by anyone (and they probably don't either). The waters are national park ones, so I suppose one might argue that the nation owns them. However the pike have been there for thousands of years, the first humans settled in the area only 5000 years ago! I don't consider them to be owned at all, and when my rod bends around to one I have got in touch with something which has a direct line to that ancient time. It's what I love to do and value a couple of 5lb jacks from there over all the big stockie carp in the world.

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Hi Anderoo,

I know River Valley "intimately" having spent hundreds of hours there after the remaining BIG Tench. It also used to hold a very good head of specimen Rudd which gradually faded into non existence (they may have been helped along by visitors from "over the fence!"). I remember the first stockings of Pike which soon started to show up dead, if not emaciated and starving. The lost some very good Pike amongst them.

It's all very well having a predator fishery but they've got to have the food source as well.

 

Maybe the answer is to turn it into a combined commercial carp/pike and snotty fishery....... :whistling:

 

Did you find the tench? I heard whispers about there being a handful of very big fish in there, I loved the pit itself and wish I'd put some effort into its tench and carp.

 

Dumping loads of pike in was shameful; odd that FAS are so good when it comes to pike teach-ins and welfare, yet stock a lake like that.

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Did you find the tench? I heard whispers about there being a handful of very big fish in there, I loved the pit itself and wish I'd put some effort into its tench and carp.

 

Dumping loads of pike in was shameful; odd that FAS are so good when it comes to pike teach-ins and welfare, yet stock a lake like that.

Hi Anderoo,

I did find a couple but it took an awful lot of hours (in the hundreds!). As you aproached the pit ...far right hand corner. I did have one from the island area but only just under 5lb (small?). Sorry to sound so flippant but with the waters I was fishing in those days, my Tench seemed to start around the 7.5lb mark.

Yes there were some very nice Carp in there, all old stock but, so I was informed, numbering only in the high thirties in total. All that I witnessed came from the island area.

The low stock numbers of fish in the pit ensured that it was very rarely visited by many, just a few "hardcore" faces on a regular basis. It was FAS's forgotten water (having been badly poached from "next door"). Before they adopted the Predator Fishery idea it was only home to the few Carp, Tench and Perch, no telling if they're still there now.

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