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Spoke to three very good south devon skippers and at the moment they are finding it very hard just to get a crew. One in particular tonight has been catching nice size bass off the wrecks, if he can get some interest he will take us out. Looks like i might be shore bound next week through lack of interest. :o:(

 

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Fuel costs are hurting everyone - Devon's a long way from most places and people are finding it harder to justify the travelling costs I guess. Good luck!

 

It's a good job they (the skippers) don't have to pay full pump price.... :huh:

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Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

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It's a good job they (the skippers) don't have to pay full pump price.... :huh:

 

They ain't even buying fuel as they have no customers to take out. It don't look good at the mo and this is the busy season.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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They ain't even buying fuel as they have no customers to take out. It don't look good at the mo and this is the busy season.

:D I'm afraid it's a fact of life, dearer fuel means dearer trips because most skippers want to maintain their margins. For more money anglers want more or better fish. The bigger cats licenced for 12 anglers make it cheaper, IF the skipper can get 12 anglers on the boat. Weekends not a problem but midweek not so easy. Some skippers are offering free trips to their regulars, anyhing to keep customers, it's hard out there but I can't see an end to it in the near future. :angry: .

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If it's any consolation I plan on treating myself to my first day's fishing out on the open water sometime in the next couple of months ;)

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There's been so much wind this year too. Must be hard for them.

 

I'm going out for a day in a couple of weeks. Can't wait :yahoo:

The best time to fish is when you have a chance.

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:D I would have been out now but for the weather, next week's a possibility though. Fingers crossed. :D

 

Managed to scrape two trips in, one with Dean farrell and a second with Ian noble, thanks to our friend Mike Concannon, meeting him next week. What with a couple of goes at Berry head that should be me sorted. Pheww.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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The bigger cats licenced for 12 anglers make it cheaper,

 

Not really true. Two big engines as their egos all want the fastest boat. This means more fuel, more maintenance and higher costs. More anglers carried means more weight (approx 150kg per angler) that in turn uses more fuel.

 

I know someone with a dive boat that now restricts dive parties to 8 people, down from 12 to save fuel. He reckons divers with their gear weigh 250kg each.

 

The fuel barge in Poole Harbour a month ago was charging 90ppl for red diesel. 200l goes nowhere in these big cats.

 

I reckon a skipper needs £300 per trip as a minimum to just cover the cost of running the boat. When you take into account things like moorings, servicing, insurances, maintaining the boat to standard and depreciation as the boat needs to be paid for somehow.

 

Mull over this. These cats cost £250,000 or more how many trips do you think they have to do to start making a profit?

 

I fear we will lose many charter skippers in the not so distant future.

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