eye wippings

[elliot]

i have got a conoflex rod and i have noticed that the whipping cotten on the eyes is getting a bit darker in colour in a small patch on most of the eyes.I think that this has been due to taking it on hoiday and having it thrown about in the bagage handling stage (partly my fault for insufficient packing in the tube), basically should i be worrying about getting the whippings fixed? if so is it a specalist job? and who do u suggest?

[jabee]

What colour are the whippings?

[Newt]

Not a specialist job by any means. And for just doing a few, no need for expensive equipment.

 

I'd say for just the occasional ring, probably cheaper to have it done. Single rod, it's a toss up. More than that, get yourself some suitable winding thread, the special goo for coating it after you've whipped it, and have fun. It is not difficult at all and especially not if you are simply re-working rings without having to determine the best positioning on the rod.

 

I know there are UK sources but to get an idea of what you will need and approximate costs, take a look at http://www.mudhole.com

[Kieran Hanrahan]

tiny cracks in the glaze on the rings can often account for the change in colour. If it is only air that is getting in you are safe enough, but usually once the crack or hole is there water will make its way in and that inevitably leads to the thread distressing and eventually giving up. The decaying thread then weakens the glaze further and you get a vicious circle. If you do notice tiny cracks and the threads seems ok, a drop of nail varnish on the affected spot can often stop any damage emerging, stitch in time etc. FWIW...

[jabee]

If the whippings are discoloured, then the finish is lifting. If the discolouration is darker than the rest of the whipping, then this would suggest moisture. If the discolouration is lighter, then this would suggest that moisture has not yet taken hold, but the epoxy has become detached from the whipping. The finish/high build is not there simply to seal the whippings - it also secures the guide in position. Whippings should not normally be applied under high pressure - they are only tight enough to attach the guide to the blank - any rod-builder will leave enough play to allow the ring to be slightly adjusted for perfect alignment, before applying the finish. Nail varnish is a stop gap but won't last so to be safe, I'd get them re-done now as there will be no corrosion on the rings which can therefore be re-used. If you don't want to attempt the job yourself, don't know anyone that can do it for you, or don't want to pay a shop to do it, let me know - I can do the job for you foc so long as you can arrange to have the rod delivered/collected.

[H.A.]

I do them with a two-part finish similar to Jules Shambrook .......

 

email me or him if you are within reach (Portsmouth area). Jules be in Torquay.

 

info@julianshambrook.com

 

adrian.farley2@btopenworld.com

[Newt]

Whippings should not normally be applied under high pressure

 

That should be in ALL CAPS. It's amazing the amount of change you can make to a rod's action (and none of it good) if you wrap too tightly.

 

I showed myself that very clearly the first time I re-did the wrapping around the female end of a joint. Got it nice and firm. Found out I had actually compressed the rod end to an extent the male end would no longer fit.

 

I be lots more gentle with the whipping thread these days.

[fishy1]

elliot,Iv'e just had a Penn Groundcaster rod 14.25ft rerung with new Fugi rings (11 I think) it only cost £40 for a first class job,so if your rings are o.k it will cost you a lot less, Iv'e done my own before and it's not worth the hassle, check your tackle shops for their rod builder. fishy1

[elliot]

thanks every one i have decided to have it profechionly done as i dont think i have the time or the confidence to do it myself i just fear i would end up with noting but a sticky horrid pole with no eyes on it.

 

if any thing i learnt my lesson next time its gonna be less rods for the trip and much more packing mind you it was not all my fault i did use a 115mm wide piece of down pipe that the Gambia air port managed to drop on its end and shatter half the way up luckily we had taken some good old duck tape with us 4 the journey back.

[jabee]

Just a thought - have the dark spots always been there and how large/extensive are they?

If the rod was built using anything other than NCP nylon thread, without applying colour preserver before applying the finish then the application of the epoxy high build would cause the thread to discolour - anything from a degree of 'mottling' to a fully 'transluscent' appearance, depending on how the high build was applied (brush/type of brush/spatula etc) where the colour of the blank 'leaks' through the threads. If this were the case, so long as you could live with it, the whippings/high build may be ok!