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[Leon Roskilly]

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Unfortunately that was the general consensus amongst the Essex lads who attended the recent Leigh-on-Sea meeting Wurzel

 

Perhaps they were the PG fan club? (PG was at the meeting).

[frankthebass]

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but compared to the size of the range of the stock they represent they are in fact a very vulnerable resource)

 

 

So vulnerable the French pair teams can hammer hell out of them for the last 20 odd years with out any real noticeable difference to the stock, if any thing the stock has increased.

 

 

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What planet are you living on Wurzel? As it cant be Earth, catches of decent sized bass here in Essex from the shore have plumeted over the last 5 years.

[stavey]

Hello Stavey

You still here?

 

I am more of a RSA than you are at the moment.

 

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but sadly so is wurzels incessant commercial clap trap he preaches,

 

Does that mean you agree with some of what I say? I'm not sure.

 

Quote from my bass consultation letter,

 

"I agree with the anglers point of view that 36 cm is to small, using 90mm nets to target them makes the shoals of immature (36cm is immature) bass inshore , estuaries and creeks venerable"

 

Is it or is it not in favour of RSA Stavey?

 

What do I expect to achieve, I am not sure, some sort of compromise perhaps.

 

As for knowing better than any other living human being about fish stocks, I doubt that, but one thing is for sure, I know a lot more than you do about the job I do.

 

Why would you want to let the Spanish in?

 

Hi wurzel, i dont have the time to answer right now i am just off with me guitar for a pint and some rock n roll at the local jam night maybe you should get out more like me anyway full explanation tomorrow, ciao............

[barry luxton]

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What planet are you living on Wurzel? As it cant be Earth, catches of decent sized bass here in Essex from the shore have plumeted over the last 5 years.

 

The last few years i have been visiting the portland race. The majority of the bass are very small, you have to be a bit lucky to catch any thing of size. The best chance for me to land a resonable size bass is while wrecking where they obviously have some protection.

 

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but compared to the size of the range of the stock they represent they are in fact a very vulnerable resource)

So vulnerable the French pair teams can hammer hell out of them for the last 20 odd years with out any real noticeable difference to the stock, if any thing the stock has increased.

 

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What planet are you living on Wurzel? As it cant be Earth, catches of decent sized bass here in Essex from the shore have plumeted over the last 5 years.

 

That does not surprise me Sam, most of the Essex coast is one big nursery area (shallow and sheltered)

there is not room for them.

I was talking in general terms.

We work into 3 miles off for a short time in the spring, last spring , once they eventually turned up, we caught as many double figure bass as ever.

[Steve Coppolo]

That does not surprise me Sam, most of the Essex coast is one big nursery area (shallow and sheltered)

there is not room for them.

I was talking in general terms.

We work into 3 miles off for a short time in the spring, last spring , once they eventually turned up, we caught as many double figure bass as ever.

 

Hello Peter

But we did used to catch plenty of bigger bass in what you describe as nursery areas.

[wurzel]

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The last few years i have been visiting the portland race. The majority of the bass are very small, you have to be a bit lucky to catch any thing of size. The best chance for me to land a resonable size bass is while wrecking where they obviously have some protection.

 

regards barry

 

I know what you mean, I know of other places the same.

The old resident shoal was caught several years ago, mainly on rod and line, what you are catching now are small new comers, if the area was left alone for 50 years it would be back to how it was,same as many other places around the coast. but how would that be possible? unless you took bass off the menue.

 

Hello Peter

But we did used to catch plenty of bigger bass in what you describe as nursery areas.

 

Hello Steve

 

But were there as many small fish at the same time?

[Steve Coppolo]

Hello Steve

 

But were there as many small fish at the same time?

 

Depends what time of year you fished Peter. Early on we'd get bigger fish. Nothing huge, average about 3 to 4 lbs. Later in the summer it would drop off with mainly smaller fish, but still average 1.5 to 2 lbs, and in the autumn a run of 5 to 7lbs average size. I think I told you that my biggest bass to date, 9lbs, came from the river. That was fun fishing with flies, lures and light tackle in sheltered water.

[wurzel]

Depends what time of year you fished Peter. Early on we'd get bigger fish. Nothing huge, average about 3 to 4 lbs. Later in the summer it would drop off with mainly smaller fish, but still average 1.5 to 2 lbs, and in the autumn a run of 5 to 7lbs average size. I think I told you that my biggest bass to date, 9lbs, came from the river. That was fun fishing with flies, lures and light tackle in sheltered water.

 

Hello Steve

 

No doubt you will have fishing like that again, but what I ment was were you catching a 3/4 pound fish every other cast as well,were there the same amount of very small bass in the river at the same time.

[stavey]

Hello Stavey

You still here?

 

YES!!

 

I am more of a RSA than you are at the moment.

 

YES!!

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but sadly so is wurzels incessant commercial clap trap he preaches,

 

Does that mean you agree with some of what I say? I'm not sure.

 

Maybe? it was meant as a bit of a joke

 

Quote from my bass consultation letter,

 

"I agree with the anglers point of view that 36 cm is to small, using 90mm nets to target them makes the shoals of immature (36cm is immature) bass inshore , estuaries and creeks venerable"

 

Is it or is it not in favour of RSA Stavey?

 

The 36cm being to small granted, but did you agree on the 45cm recommendation?

 

What do I expect to achieve, I am not sure, some sort of compromise perhaps.

 

Fair enough

 

As for knowing better than any other living human being about fish stocks, I doubt that, but one thing is for sure, I know a lot more than you do about the job I do.

 

Probably, not arguing with that.

 

Why would you want to let the Spanish in?

 

I dont want them in as much as you but you know that it could be a possibility in the future? you keep on saying that there is nothing wrong with fish stocks and there is plenty around might give the eu ministers the wrong/right idea