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There’s some great prizes there to be had Paul. You seem to have some great sponsors who are prepared to put there money into these festivals.

In today’s climate of alternative fishing and bag limits etc, have you ever thought about having a prize for say the first tope or shark to be caught? I am sure that a prize of say £1000 would generate a lot of interest from anglers all over the country who specialise in this kind of fishery?

I wonder what or how our angling friends from down south or from Scotland would think of this?

In your first competition at the beginning of the year it would also be handy for those days when (because of inclement weather) you could not get off a bit to catch cod, ling etc. it would be nice to use these days to have a go inside for tope. They are there to be caught, ask darlick. I am sure you would get sponsorship from tackle shops that would be only too pleased to sell them the correct gear for catching these species? And I am sure that some of the country’s expert tope and shark anglers would be tempted for such lucrative prizes.

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In the last 5 years one place that I spent very little time fishing was the Yorkshire coast. We where based in Whitby (Yorkshire coast) but very rarely fished there and that was with anglers.

As for commercial fishing, I have fished of the Shetlands, north of the Shetlands the Irish sea, the Norwegian coast the Danish coast I worked off Aberdeen and Peterhead there where plenty of other places I fished but I would not like to bore you. The North Sea is a very large place, the Yorkshire coast is (out to about 10 miles) a place that quite a few commercial fishermen and charter boat skippers have never felt a need to leave.

The last trip I had with the chieftain fishing with anglers we where some 155 miles east of Whitby. The last place that I was trawling was in the Shetland basin in a 60 foot boat out of Whitby in the middle of February. If you think that we done blinkers in our search for fish I assure you that was never the case.

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sorry challenge, i seem to have credited you with too many brains and yes you are boring me :yawn:

 

the blinkers reference is to the fact that you believe that there is no overfishing and that there is no greedy crooked commercial fishermen out there exploiting a finite resource and that the fishing is as good as it ever was. :crazy:

 

maybe i should start drinking yorkshire ale and become deluded too :giveup:

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the blinkers reference is to the fact that you believe that there is no overfishing and that there is no greedy crooked commercial fishermen out there exploiting a finite resource and that the fishing is as good as it ever was. :crazy:

 

This is where i have to ask the same question, do you think gill tagging could solve the problem?

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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There’s some great prizes there to be had Paul. You seem to have some great sponsors who are prepared to put there money into these festivals.

In today’s climate of alternative fishing and bag limits etc, have you ever thought about having a prize for say the first tope or shark to be caught? I am sure that a prize of say £1000 would generate a lot of interest from anglers all over the country who specialise in this kind of fishery?

I wonder what or how our angling friends from down south or from Scotland would think of this?

In your first competition at the beginning of the year it would also be handy for those days when (because of inclement weather) you could not get off a bit to catch cod, ling etc. it would be nice to use these days to have a go inside for tope. They are there to be caught, ask darlick. I am sure you would get sponsorship from tackle shops that would be only too pleased to sell them the correct gear for catching these species? And I am sure that some of the country’s expert tope and shark anglers would be tempted for such lucrative prizes.

Regards.

 

Tope, porbegal they are swimming of the yorkshire coast as i speak i myself saw a porbegal 2 weeks ago and another skipper has also seen one but we must go with the majority a shark festival at whitby at some time in the future is a possibility 2 boats allready do sharking trips and have caught porbegals and tope but not all anglers want this sort of fishing the majority love to catch the lucrative cod but things change can change i myself did a sharking trip 5 years ago and guys who booked the boat had very poor sea legs unfortunatly and the trip was cut short .

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

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This is where i have to ask the same question, do you think gill tagging could solve the problem?

 

sorry if i appear stupid barry, what is gill tagging??

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sorry if i appear stupid barry, what is gill tagging??

 

The idea has been out for a while, i don't think it could be used for all fish, herring and such, no. But cod, bass etc. Tags would be issued either free or for a nominal sum from various controlled outlets to commercial who would then tag them proir to selling them or moving them on to the merchant or directly to hotels, supermakets, fish shops. No tag, no sell. All outlets would then sell only tagged fish. Yes quite possibly be gits out there already working on ways of beating the system. If and when they are caught, cut their legs off. it would mean that all fish are tracked from capture to the end user. Hopefully no black selling, i.e. even in a restaurant it would be easy to check the sales ledger against the tags. In addition the likes of defra will know what is landed commercially and could control the issuing of them with regards to quota, if needed. The value of the tagged fish will increase as there would not be alledgedly any more back door selling, no illegal anglers or netsmen, or the precieved threat of bucking the system. It could pay for itself and protect the stock. I hope this is clear in my non-proffessional way. Sorry you lot, it's off topic as usuall.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Tope, porbegal they are swimming of the yorkshire coast as i speak i myself saw a porbegal 2 weeks ago and another skipper has also seen one but we must go with the majority a shark festival at whitby at some time in the future is a possibility 2 boats allready do sharking trips and have caught porbegals and tope but not all anglers want this sort of fishing the majority love to catch the lucrative cod but things change can change i myself did a sharking trip 5 years ago and guys who booked the boat had very poor sea legs unfortunatly and the trip was cut short .

Am not suggesting that you have a shark festival, what I am suggesting is that you have a prize for the first tope or shark to be caught in your fishing festival? See what the response is from customers and sponsors? There’s plenty of fish out there at the moment and there are tope and sharks and prize money to boot. So all you need now is more customers to come and try and catch them.

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sorry challenge, i seem to have credited you with too many brains and yes you are boring me :yawn:

 

the blinkers reference is to the fact that you believe that there is no overfishing and that there is no greedy crooked commercial fishermen out there exploiting a finite resource and that the fishing is as good as it ever was. :crazy:

 

maybe i should start drinking yorkshire ale and become deluded too :giveup:

You where ranting on about e-bay and did I only know of the Yorkshire coast when it came to fishing happy dude.

There are people in our part of the world who think that the world ends when you loose sight of the local abbey on the cliffs.

They think that if there is nothing to catch then that means that there is nothing to catch in the sea. We proved them wrong by going in search of fish, the same as commercial fishermen have done for hundreds of years. Now there is fish again on our local grounds (within sight of the abbey) so all again is well. Does your loch have an abbey? Perhaps one day your loch will become productive with fish? I hope so, because you obviously don’t seam to want to look for it.

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All i can say that what we are seeing is extremly good news for everybody concered commercial fishermen and anglers alike the signs look excellent i persionally never went aback of 5 miles all last week and believe me the fishing was as good as it was 10 years ago the boxes were all overflowing by the end of the day, i had regulars on every day this last week and they were extatic not just cod but some cracking pollock and ling upto 25lb the sea is alive at the momment june is always a very good month and same as every year its allway bananza time at this time of the year once the algie has vanished but it is the sheer volume of cod on the grounds you can actually let the boat drift for say over a mile on the rough and you have constantly got somebody into cod its alive with them the reason for this explosion of fish could be the amount of crab potts that have been on the grounds over the last few years and it has meant less commercial fishing effort but who really knows all i know is its been fantastic fishing for the lads shads, pirks, they have all been hammering fish even one of the local trawler skippers told in the pub yesterday it was like the old days.

Harry , Reg and myself are thinking of giving it a go on Wednesday .......any places spare Paul? (3 in total)

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You where ranting on about e-bay and did I only know of the Yorkshire coast when it came to fishing happy dude.

 

Perhaps one day your loch will become productive with fish? I hope so, because you obviously don’t seam to want to look for it.

Regards.

 

well i think i have definitely credited you with too many brains.

 

i asked in a jocular fashion if you got your blinkers on ebay, hardly constitutes a rant.....

 

i work 6 days a week and don't have time to go looking for fish, i want them to be in the approximate area i last got them in last time i went fishing.

 

my "loch" is part of the firth of clyde system which was once the top fishing area in the UK for inshore cod fishing.

 

after they scrapped the 3 mile limit it became a free for all and within a year there was nothing left, only dogfish and the odd flattie.

 

the loch had a wee comeback with haddock for a couple of years, now there is none again.

 

the shop we got our rolls from in the morning from has lost our regular business, the chippy we went to on the way home has lost our trade, the pub we had a pint in also, for what, so some greedy git of a "fisherman" can have creel bait instead of paying £10 for a box of salt herring??

 

and only in the short term.

 

what you need to realise is that overfishing of stocks doesn't mean just the north sea cod stocks, its loads of different species in loads of different areas, rays in luce bay (if you know where that is) for example.

 

the pollack which are being gill netted on the reefs off arran, the bass and smoothhounds in wigtown bay.

 

when was the last time anyone got a halibut off the north or west coast of scotland, did the anglers who caught maybe 6 in a year catch them all??

 

in fact heres a great set, these should blot almost everything for you

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-LEATHER-BRID...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

you are obviously the kind of man who has to have the last word, so this could go on for a while.... :rolleyes:

Unbearable, isn't it? The suffering of strangers, the agony of friends. There is a secret song at the center of the world, and its sound is like razors through flesh.

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