Perfect grinner knot using microfilament wire?

[Bobj]

It may very well be my knot doesn't cut the mustard (or is that mustad!), I'm sure it's all been tried before and I'm attempting to reinvent the wheel here, in which case I will just copy your method. I am however going with the Tippexed barbed point from the off, great idea!

Any good, mate??

 

http://www.marinews.com/Grinner-Knot-364.php

[Steve Burke]

To avoid the trace kinking I agree it's best to pull only on the short tag end. However the secret is firstly to pull sharply, and secondly to use the correct knot.

 

When I brought Wonder Wire into the UK in my days in the tackle trade I tested a variety of different knots on it. The best turned out to be a simple untucked half-blood (=US clinch knot) as Angly has found. However the optimum number of turns depended on the breaking strain, and was less than with nylon. For 15lbs I use four turns, for 40lbs I use just two. I used to use just two with 25lbs as well but in recent years have decided that three is preferable.

 

It was also interesting that the best knot varied between wires, even including between different 49 strand wires.

Edited October 18, 2008 by Steve Burke

[Angly]

Any good, mate??

 

http://www.marinews.com/Grinner-Knot-364.php

 

 

Sorry for the late reply, must of missed this thread, and in any case, I'm not keen to endorse a knot to thousands of forum readers based on my very limited knowledge and experience.

 

Regardless, I've not caught anything yet, although I have had to pull for a break twice after encountering submerged debris, and both times I managed to straighten the trebles (Drennan Carbon Semi-Barbed) without anything coming loose. I'm using an untucked half-blood knot top and bottom, with a knotless knot for the middle treble.

 

I feel a lot happier now with Steve's experience leading to the same conclusions, and will continue to use this setup until something better comes along.

Edited November 6, 2008 by Angly