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Angling Charter Boats to be Decommissioned?

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Hi Leon

 

I think you will find that the decommission part of the package is only for commercials

 

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Yes Steve, but as the aim is to remove the vessels taking most fish from inshore waters, what happens if the study shows that (say) Whitby charter boats are taking more cod per boat than the Whitby inshore fishing boats?

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Yes Steve, but as the aim is to remove the vessels taking most fish from inshore waters, what happens if the study shows that (say) Whitby charter boats are taking more cod per boat than the Whitby inshore fishing boats?

 

Hi Leon

 

ahhh interesting point

 

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Yes Steve, but as the aim is to remove the vessels taking most fish from inshore waters, what happens if the study shows that (say) Whitby charter boats are taking more cod per boat than the Whitby inshore fishing boats?

 

Is "The Study" in any way linked to the DEFRA Science Advisory Group ?

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Yes Steve, but as the aim is to remove the vessels taking most fish from inshore waters, what happens if the study shows that (say) Whitby charter boats are taking more cod per boat than the Whitby inshore fishing boats?

 

As cod are still on the highly endangered list they will probably be put on a very low catch limit.

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Is "The Study" in any way linked to the DEFRA Science Advisory Group ?

 

Hi Glenn,

 

If you mean is it linked to the three year DEFRA RSA study, then no, this is a newly announced study.

 

I would guess that it might be referred to the Defra Marine Fisheries Science Advisory Group for comment (DEFRA decide and manage science spending, the MFSAG is only an advisory body of stakeholders helping DEFRA to understand if it is spending the right money on the right things).

 

I should imagine that if people from CEFAS are involved in both studies, there will be some crossover of information, depending upon timescales.

 

Going from the article in Fishing News, CEFAS will decide whether it needs to look at the angling charter vessels once they have completed the first 6 month study looking at the 'environmental footprint' of the inshore commercial vessels.

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Wot a load of cobblers, how can defra de-commission charter angling boats on the say so of what the rsa have perceived to have landed. What stats are they using, what landing figures have they got. They might have some acurate figures for the future if they ask the rsa or the skippers to provide them now. Apart from that what have they got to work on. Is this all part of enhancing the rsa sector (strategy) they was on about, again, it's coblers.

 

If they can get there own house in order first, overspend, then concentrate on the enormous amount of discard that the commercial sector was happy to demonstrate before the quota was set perhaps they might start doing something usefull for the stock for a change.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Wot a load of cobblers, how can defra de-commission charter angling boats on the say so of what the rsa have perceived to have landed. What stats are they using, what landing figures have they got. They might have some acurate figures for the future if they ask the rsa or the skippers to provide them now. Apart from that what have they got to work on. Is this all part of enhancing the rsa sector (strategy) they was on about, again, it's coblers.

 

If they can get there own house in order first, overspend, then concentrate on the enormous amount of discard that the commercial sector was happy to demonstrate before the quota was set perhaps they might start doing something usefull for the stock for a change.

 

If you read it properly Barry, nowhere does it say they are going to decommession charter boats.

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If you read it properly Barry, nowhere does it say they are going to decommession charter boats.

 

Oh i'm sorry Wurzel, i missed the ? mark at the end of the headline. I'm not bothered either way. If it is found for example that rsa charter boats are having a detrimental effect on the stock, then something should be done, but that is a massive big if..........

 

If defra want to go down that road, so be it but they would need hard and fast evidence or it will just be a waste of time as usual.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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