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  1. Sorry Sam, you tend towards the PC in all your posts, get a life and an humour implant ( please note implant as opposed to transplant which would suggest an existing sense of humour). Newts post was good fun, non raciast, non sexist, non everything else you are against (that just about covers the world) go find something better to do. ( Sorry you just did find something to do, forgot, AN had gone a bit quiet so in you come again ) Go for it Sam, protest something else Thought I`d stick a few dummies in for you before you lost them Sam
  2. Steve, you were almost spot on. Fish turns out to have been closer to two pounds. Sincere apologies for the misleading post but it was un-intentional. In fact I did ask when they contacted me originally if they had checked everything and was told yes. Lifes a tattie, then you get mashed. Wrong again, story of my life
  3. No idea Steve, thats what I was told. As I say I`m normally more salty orientated but even there I`d be wondering about a 15 inch measure for , say a bream or other relatively deep bodied fish. Having said that, condition, girth, eggs (??) who knows. As soon as I get more info I`ll post. Stan
  4. More into sea than coarse but the son of a mate of mine has apparently just taken a 6lb 8oz perch from a small local pond in Scotland. Fish was taken on worm, (not sure if ledgered or float). The lads 15 year old. Not sure what the record weight is but he must be hitting the crossbar. He`s got pics which I`ll post when I get copies. The fish was measured at just over 15inches then released.
  5. Conker, sorry mate the stand up stuff has gone. By the way welcome to AN.
  6. Excellent piece of angling, must have been fun from the relative confines of a `yak, well done
  7. If you`re really hung up on fixed spools and got a few hundred quid to spare check here www.vanstaal.com
  8. Much the same as Jaffa, I should keep my nose out of others business especially after a few and a major row at home. Bad idea! Apologies to anyone offended.
  9. Could`nt agree with Ian more. Carp rod or reasonable salmon type spinning rod would work fine. On the recent Portugal trip we had good fun on white marlin to 90-95lb on 16 and 20 test. I had the 90 on 16# on a 20lb stand up rod took about 20mins. Great fun and half a dozen screaming runs 100-250 mtrs with no real chance of a break on a 6 - 8lb drag setting. Fish was tired but recovered after 4-6 mins and sped off quite the thing. A bigger fish 120-125 hit the blue marlin 80lb bent butt trolling gear on a Tiagra 80w twin with a 26lb drag setting and was at the boat in around 3-4 mins. It came aboard and proceeded to wreck or try to wreck everything in site. Kept Gordon stuck in the chair for 5 mins with its` tail, scattered tackle everywhere and stuck its lower bill into my leg (still got the puncture and swelling) Green fish on board aint a lot of fun.
  10. Still got a few items that aint gonna be used in the forseeable future and will only gather dust: EVEROL 7.5/0 size trolling reel, twin speed, mint condition never used. £ 215.00 PENN INTERNATIONAL twin speed 50 wide, first class condition, up-rated drag system by Penn........£220.00 BRAID PRO-MANTA stand up pad with drop straps and BRAID fighting harness (kidney) Used twice but as new condition. £60.00
  11. Thought this was worth a mention. About ten days before going on holiday I decided my 12 year old saltwater fly reel was past its` best so went surfing. I ordered with a well known retailer and after 6 or 7 days and two wrong reels sent I got a full refund. At this point I was about two days from leaving. Got in touch with Broom Tackle who did`nt have what I wanted in stock but said they would see what they could do. An hour or so later they phoned to say they had sourced one and would send it that day If I wanted. The correct reel duly arrived the following morning. To complicate things I dropped the reel by accident when the boat moved and damaged the rim of it making it un-usable. I contacted Broom on my return and informed them it was 100% my fault and could they source a new spool for me. They said to send the whole reel to them and the very next day a new reel arrived at the door with no charge. Cant ask better than that. www.broomtacklebox.co.uk
  12. Glenn, the rather sheepish feeling 17 year old son of one of my mates has now had earache from both me and his dad. He is not on this forum and wont be near my machine again, best is the **** was stone cold sober actually so was I as I had just picked her indoors up from the airport at around midnight her flight had been delayed. Sorry for the mix up.
  13. Not 100% certain what took pace last night but I can guess. There were a few people here for a session including one or two from other forums. A couple used my machine to access their mails or messages or whatever and I assume they thought it funny to post. All I can say is the post did not come from me. I have no issue with Glenn whatsoever and I`ll do my best to find out who the smart guy is. Easy to say the above I know but I`ve screwed up or made an outburst a couple of times in the past and if I was out of order I apologised for it right away. On this occasion I cant apologise as I did`nt do anything.
  14. Just for you then Bob, courtesy of copy & paste. PS you`ve got E mails. Arrived a few days before the rest of the crew and walked off the plane into 101 F. Two days later 104 F and rarely below mid to high 90`s the rest of the time. Gordon and Fiona arrived a few days later and after a discussion at a watering hole with Bob and Tony his partner , he showed us a photo of a blue taken not far along the coast. This one had taken 3-1/2 hrs in a chair on 80lb and could`nt be revived. It weighed in at around 700lbs. A lot of white marlin had been seen so we opted for an extra day on the boat on the Friday. Set off around 8.30 am and after about 1/2 an hour we set out a variety of smaller lures, some mouldcraft and some that Bob had made, (looked as good as shop bought to me, and as it turned out to the marlin). We were towing at 6.5knts in water from 100 - 250mtrs and it only took around 20 mins to raise the first whites, ( 3 ). These guys had a good look but were only window shopping. They had a batter at 3 of the lures but no hook ups`. We re-set the spread and after a further 20 mins or so Gordon and I had a double hook-up. We wre running four of the boats 20-30 rods on Shimano TLD 30` with 30 test line. I had my own 20lb rod with a GLS 25 and 16lb Moi moi pre-test mono. Gordon was running a 20lb rod I`d made him with a Dual lever drag and also 16lb Moi moi mono. (thank god we had opted for mono and not braid, would have been a waste of time given the speed of the hits). Anyway one white took the 30 gear but only managed a short run when the line popped because of a rigger clip jamming. Gordons fish made a blistering initial run of about 300-350mtrs then cleared the water 3 or 4 times before another 100mtr run. Bob bakced the boat a good bit and Gordon kept in contact with the fish. The whole fight lasted around 20 - 25 mins on the 16lb outfit with a lot of runs, tailwalking and deep dives. Evenutally the fish got close to the boat, lit up like a xmas tree, it was not chuffed. Tony got the leader at the first attempt and Reefcats first white marlin came aboard. Bobs` face was a treat. It was quickly tagged, photographed and then held into the water flow for about 6-7 mins. The tail movements got stronger and soon it was off to fight again. A good conditioned, very strong fish around the 65-70lb mark. The spread was re-set and it only took about 10 mins and I got a stormer of a run on the 30lb gear. The fish stripped 200 - 250 yds, did a bit of surfing and tail walking then went deep. I could feel the head shaking then slack line. I wound in to discover the 8/0 hook straightened, can only assume it was bill hooked and got leverage. A quite period for around an hour then two more whites appeared. One crashed the lures but did`nt hook up the other vanished deeper only to make a slam into my 16lb outfit. This one was well hooked and stripped around 300 yds on the first run, then did the tail walking act about five times. I slowly got some line back although the fish went deep with a lot of lunges which tested the drag on the small Penn reel. Again around 20 - 25mins and the Momoi mono stood the test. White No 2 came aboard, once more superb condition and still lively. Same procedure, tag, photo and revive and off it went. Estimates put this one at 90 -95lb. Continued to tow and raised about another 6 window shoppers. Then my 16lb outfit and Gordons went at the same time, another double hook-up. Think Bob has posted a photo of the two of them tail walking together. My outfit was in the rocket launcher on the fly bridge and as it was being passed down the lever drag caught on something, free spooled and a cracker of a birds nest, that was the end of that one. Gordon had more luck and the 3rd for the day, around the 70lb mark was boated and released. We had another couple of window shoppers but that was it for the day. A total of 14 marlin raised, 6 hooked and 3 boated, superb fun. In between all this we had passed a very big, 500lb plus hammerhead, but it did`nt seem interested. Picked up the 3rd crew (Welsh Tony) on the Sat and agreed to bring everything forward by a day as the marlin were there in numbers. Set off on the Sunday and towed all day with similar lures and spread but no hook-ups although we raised 4 window shoppers. On the Monday we towed the white marlin lures all morning, we raised 5 marlin but no hook ups. Moved to deeper water and changed to heavy gear for blue marlin. We were running my own and Gordons bent butt 80`s, one with an 80 Everol and one with an Accurate twin drag 80 wide. These went on the flat lines with 16 inch Kona Killas while the boats 80lb Shimano`s with Tiagra 80 wide twin speeds went on the riggers, one long and one short with dorado lures. For good measure we put out one of my 50-80 stand-ups with a Shimao TLD 50 twin speed as the shotgun with a Mouldcraft softhead. Sods law took over and a white hit one of the Shimanos. Gordon was on the first hit so he had little option but to move to the chair with the heavy gear. Having said that the fish put a bend into the Shimano but it was out-gunned. After about 10 mins it was boated, a cracker about 120-125lb. again T & R. On the Tuesday Welsh Tony had the first hit on 20lb gear and after about 20mins landed his first WM, a superb conditioned fish around the 80lb mark. We decided to put the heavy gear out again and towed untill around 2 pm. Gordon was on second strike (all done by drawing lots the night before) and I was on 3rd, (not sure that was a good move). A fish slammed into Gordons 80lb bent butt outfit so again he had to move to the chair. This one had chosen the wrong lure as it was up against an Accurate dual drag and was at the boat in around 5 mins, again lovely condition around 80lb. T&R. The water was shallowing up to the 250 -300mtr mark so we opted for the white marlin lures again, very, very, very bad move. We had only been towing for around 20mins when the water absolutely erupted around one of the samll lures. I had seen a lot of marlin crash the lures with their bills and weave around but this was totally different. I`ve had some big shark to the 500 mark, good sized tuna and even two Kenyan blue marlin around 180lb but nothing prepared me for this. The swirl was immense and the bill tried to annhialate the lure before the fish turned, swirled back in an instant and lunged at it with what can only be described as primeval fury. As it hit the lure the head was side on and out of the water. Around 2.5 - 3ft of head (not counting the bill) was out with no sign of the gills or pectorals. Line screamed off at an unbelievable rate as I sliped on the nearest butt pad, a bog standard 6-7inch Eddystone pad. I grabbed the rod and held on as the reel emptied at a rate of knots. I then had a few seconds to realise I was connected to this "thing" with an Eddystone butt pad, no kidney harness, a 20-30lb stand-up and TLD 30 with 30lb test line. At times like this you know who your friends are. Gordon has had about 14 blue marlin from the Indian Ocean with a PB of 800lb. He just couldnt resist telling me that what I was connected to was possibly 5 , 6 or 7 times my own weight, nice At this point around 300 yds was off and Tony shouted it was coming up. This "thing" cleared the water and I almost p####d myself, it was immense. No exaggeration when I was told later about the girth of an average lounge settee and 10-12ft. Again I looked at the TLD 30 and 20lb rod Anyway nothing else for it. The boat backed and I managed to gain some line but then the "thing" decided it wanted it all back so it took it. At this point it was suggested I may like slightly more than the Eddystone butt pad. I considered the matter and decided it was a very good idea. Sad Two of the guys managed to get a Gruavelle stand up pad on to me and a Black Magic kidney belt. Problem was they forgot to take the Eddystone off so it was underneath the stand-up pad and for good measure had decided to flip over so the gimbal face was now pushing into various sensitive bit of me. Anyway I continued in a dilligent manner for around 45 mins with the drag increased beyond strike to about 18lb. I was in full control of the situation (aye right ) Only thing in control was this "thing" on the end of the 30lb line. For whatever reasons I managed to gain line as Bob moved the boat around. I even managed to get the double line to the surface at one point but about 15ft behind the boat so no chance of touching it. Mr Marlin then decided he liked my line so went deep and took about 400yds of it with him, back to square one. It was still around 90 degrees at this point and the butt pad was continually loosening so Welsh Tony decided he would simply tie a knot in it and lock it to the kidney belt with a lanyard, forgetting of course that my innards were between the knot and the pad. As he played around with his little Spanish windlass I felt mu lungs move towards my throat (at least something did). Always the good pal Tony asked if I would like some water after an hour or so. I could`nt speak because of the pressure but indicated this would be a welcome distraction as my mouth was ever so slightly dry. He then proceeded to take my cap off and throw the water all over me, Welsh ****! At this Gordon politely enquired, (between howls of laughter) as to his intentions to be told "I saw Rex Hunt do it" Welsh **** ! Eventually I got some down my throat but it did`nt seem to want to go far down, anyway. Mr Marlin and I then decided to play a game for the second hour. I would suggest that he gave me line back onto the reel and he would simply refuse, (guess he liked the nice yellow colour). I asked him to come up, he said no and stayed down. Fun bit of the game seemed to be when he did give me line back he would wait until the spool was almost full and then empty it all again. Guess this was fun as he did it around 15 times. Must admit in all seriousness that it had long before ceased to be fun. I considered the chair but with a short butt stand-up and swim board at the back of the boat this was not on. It was getting seriously sore and the heat was murderous. The guys tried to get a towel between the butt pad and my thighs to cushion things and the pressure was such that it took two of them to lift the pad off my legs. It served no purpose. I felt the head shaking down deep but this was no ordinary sharp fast head shaking, this was pure brute animal power. I have never given up on a fish on my life but I wanted to, badly. After 2 hrs 10 mins I had done all I could do on 30lb test to a 20lb rod with no sign of the fish weakening I felt things getting silly. The lever drag by this time was at sunset and the TLD 30 was groaning. My head was getting light and dizzy, the pain in the groin and back was excruciating so I told then to get someone else ready rather than lose the fish. Gordon put on a full second Black Magic harness and pad and just about then I brought up two days worth of burgers and brekkie, (just as Welsh Tony was wiping my head, paybacks a bitch ) We passed the rod to Gordon and I decided to die for a little while in the cabin. I surfaced about twenty minutes later to see Gordon, (well experienced on blue marlin) being taken for little walks along the transom, port to st`board and back again so many times we named it the Marlin shuffle. He could do not one thing with this fish for the next hour and a half except watch as his hard earned line peeled off again and again, probably another 10-12 time. It was genuinely between Gordon and myself around 25 to 30 times this marlin had almost completely emptied a reel against a 23-24lb drag setting. Then around 3-3/4 hrs after the strike Gordon noticed the runs and lunges were getting weaker and he was gaining more line than he was losing. At this point the fish had been seen a few times but never close enough to do anything but we all realised the marlin was tiring. Another period of head shaking and powerful lunges and Gordon was hanging onto the rails with a strange subdued look on his face. The rod was doubled and the line, with the drag at sunset, was whining. The inevitable happened on that weight of gear, something had to give as the drag was giving up and getting jerky, it was the line. "Whang" and Gordon was catapulted into the chair. Based on the digital camera timer and watches we had held that fish on a 20lb rod, and 30 test line for 4 hours and ten minutes and it had wrecked both of us. Sods law, had it taken the 80lb bent butts, who knows. Best estimate was from the crew and Gordon. He said it equaled or bettered his PB of 800lb and cryptically mentioned that had it ben put on scales we may well have had a shock. All I`ve learned is that blue marlin on 20-30lb stand up is not a very clever idea. On the Wednesday we decied easier things were required so we went sharking. We had great fun with dorado while the chum trail was spreading but again sods law, the only shark took a squid strip I was using for the dorado on a trout spinning rod. After three huge runs of around 3ft each it was subdued and then bit the mono. Cant remember if the estimate was 600lb or 600mm but the yolk sack was still hanging to it. Thursday saw us gluttons for punishment again so we towed the big lures all day. Fiona, Gordons wife fancied a go when a marlin hit and she managed her first WM, a fish of around 80lb but again it hit the big trolling rods so was a bit outgunned. Tony actually took it for a walk on the leader to tire it as it was still well green but it managed to slip the hook. Nothing else that day except three huge blue marlin clearing the water a few hundred yards off and another large hammerhead around the 500lb mark. We took and extra day onto the charter and motored 3 hrs to the Pecos sea mount, an awesome feature with it`s head around 230mtrs and the base at 1100mtrs over a mile are. Gordon whacked a white on top of the mount but again on 80lb. He even tried lossening the drag on the big Everol to get a run or two but it was at the boat, T&R after about 5-6mins, a fish around 80-85lb. All in all, great fun on the lighter gear (except one bit that is) and well recommended for some sportfishing on a boat with good crew and tons of space. Stan. PS Snatcher, sorry mate never got a chance to try the poppers on fly. One reason was looking at my tarpon reel carrying 280yds of backing it would have been a nonsense given the initial runs. I did put one on a twenty outfit, weighted it and trolled it for 2 hrs and it raised three marlin before it got annhialted with a bill
  15. Must admit to not having posted on the forum for quite a while but have occasionaly looked in. Have read the replies on this particular topic and have to put my tuppence worth in for what it is worth (possibly not a lot) but here goes: 1) He is a commercial fisherman not an angler and since broadbill is not a species with a UK quota then he did nothing wrong with taking the fish and selling it as, I assume, he is a licenced fisherman: 2) I better add here quickly that I would personally much have prefered if a fish such as this had been photographed at the boatside and released alive but since I was not there at the time and know niether the circumstances nor the danger to the boatman, his gear and liveliehood, nor the condition of the fish then I cannot really comment on what I,, given the prevailing circumstances at that time, may have done. 3) The idea that this is some magical appearance of a tropical species in our ( UK ) waters is a load of toss, simple as that. Aint looked back at the posts before writing this but apparanetly it was some 3000 miles off course,,??????? nonsense, the reporter from the newspaper knows as much about swordfish and UK species as I know about brain surgery and that is not a lot. 4) "It is a sign of global warming as this species moves into our waters" or similar to that and some comment about " it never having been known in UK waters before." The reporter should check his fact before writing such stuff. 5) Broadbill swordfish is an indigeonous UK species, it has been in our water for hundreds probably thousands of year. It has nothing whatsoever to do with global warming nor is it a seasonal visitor or "chance species". The Broadbill spends most of its life in 8 - 14 degrees C at depths of 120 -1500mtrs plus, global warming has nothing to do with it. This reproter, angling corrspondent or whatever he or she is should stick to 1lb whiting off Chesil beach, then he maybe in his own league 6) Cant remember the headline (it aint worth remembering but along the lines of never been know in our waters before??????????????????? Where does this guy get his info from ????? A fair number of broadbill have been taken (commercial) close to, or indeed washed up on, UK coasts in the past decade alone. From S. Ireland to N Ireland, from The Hebrides to Loch Long and ( for reasons unknown to me) more than our fair share washed ashore on the East Neuk of Fife in Ferbuary - April almost every year, all of them small fish in the 40 - 70lb ranges. The old story, they aint been caught on rod and line so they aint there??? If nobody tries they aint gonna be caught. I know I`ll probably be shot down for this reply but that`s life, if you dont know anything about the species or its` habitats, movements or likes / dislikes, or if you are just a reporter wanting a headline at any cost or a regular angler who thinks the broadbill, mako, marlin, thresher, porbeagle etc etc has more right to life than the mackeral we kill by the million each year for bait then please post explaining " exactly" why that broadbill had more right to be released than the mackeral?????????????????????????????? i.e. what or who designated you the godlike person with the power over life and death of a particular species and why the killing of that particular fish made you "disgusted"????????????? By the way an answer such as " I only take enough for bait or the pot" aint gonna wash. Why did you take them for bait or the pot when you can use artificial lures or by from a fishmonger when your dainty hands aint sullied by actually chapping it on the head,??? So why exactly did you act asa God and kill the mackeral, launce, peeler, rag, lug etc, etc etc, when you could have usd atrificials?????????? Possibly becasue it suited your own needs?????????
  16. There you go John including the poppers on tubes. www.flyfishusa.com/flies/billfish-flies.htm
  17. Having duly read the article and remembering the mark1 wife, I`m not all that certain the goat may not have been preferable at the time. Mark11 is fine `though
  18. Yep, sorry no prissy PC correctness or stories about a poor or unhappy childhood, burn the bugger, castrate him then hang him,very, very slowly. No dis-respect to a previous poster but the sooner the State starts executing these sort of low lifes the better. The statistics from overseas saying it makes no difference to crime fair enough but at least you get rid of these asswipes so as crime increases simply increase the number of executions, they`ll soon get the message.
  19. Probably right Jeeps, then again I see strange occurences after a few Baillies and I have it on good authority from the Snatch guy that a few Millers and he`s also in the world of the paranormal
  20. Think a rods just a dod of carbon with string holding on a guide??
  21. What Chavender may be referring to is resonant frequency which is affects almost everything, cars, bridges, building, music systems, etc etc. It also plays a major factor in determining your fishing rod builds believe it or not. The resonant frequency of a rod is essentially the physics of a tapered rod: 1. There is an inherent frequency of free oscillation when the rod tip is displaced. 2. There is a "damping factor" governing the dissipation of energy in a rod that has been displaced and is returning to it's original position. This is an aggregate factor that is influenced by material, rod taper, and length. 3. Related to the "damping factor" is the amplitude of the initial couple of oscillations in a rod/blank. If a very minor action affected the particular curtain web, not necessarily a draught as such but possibly an updraft of warm air, channeled to the particular web area then they curtain web would begin to move and its resonant frequency would be displaced. The adjacent webs may well remain unaffected. The curtain would continue to occilate, perhaps for a fair length of time, until it re-synchronised with the resonant frequency of the remaining webs and support. Any additional action during that period, i.e. additional draught or hot air, would perpetuate the "problem". Add to that the possibility that by mere accident of its` design and manufacture the particular web may be in perfect balance and become, as has been mentioned , an almost perfect pendulum until the occilation reverts and the resonant frequency is re-instated to that of its` surroundings. (I think) Failing that check all the house occupants heads for 666
  22. Mr. Bradford, just a minor point that intrigues me, (having begun my fishing in the days of good old Mr. Crabtree). These angling " coaches" you talk about, are you one????? Only other thing I wonder about in my humble way is, who exactly taught the angling coaches
  23. Not quite the same but remeber probably around 8 or 9 years ago the RAF up here picked up an Epirb signal somewhere in the general inner Clyde area. No distress call had been received so a Sea King was launched from Prestwick. Much to their surprise the Epirb signal was narrowed down to the Paisley area about 10 miles inland. The Sea King pinpointed it accurately and alerted Police who were sent to a house in the area. Turns out the guy in the house had broken into some boats at a marina and, I think one of his kids, was mucking about with the Epirb in a garage or similar, nicked
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