Cod, off the menu

[H.A.]

I dont allow sillyness on my forum, you 2 muppets would have been booted out years ago.

 

Sorry, Gonzo!

 

(Take yourself a bit seriously, eh?)

 

[barry luxton]

Your right as well, I dont allow sillyness on my forum, you 2 muppets would have been booted out years ago.

 

Gone off topic, unfortunatly.

 

 

Please don't big up your web site on my behalf. Couple of years ago you invited me to join, however at that time i declined. The reason then and as now is your boat fishing section is severly contrained in the type of fishing you do. The majority is targeting codling with the odd cod thrown in, drifting. As i have told you previous, in the channel there is a huge diversity of specis and for a great part decent sized fish compared with your normal boat fishing landings of 95% codling and again the odd cod. No thanks.

 

John Brennan and myself before he sadly left us was planning to do just that, some decent boat fishing off your coast. It's a shame it didn't come to fruition as he certainly beleived that they are there, as do i. So as you can see my friend, it's not me that is lacking. All i need is some forward thinking skipper as he was and i would be up there.

 

Something constructive, short memory? I think i put up a couple of posts this year showing newbies to the sport of boat fishing and to their success in the first catches, happens quite alot from my point of view and i also enjoy doing it, always willing to lend a hand. Give us a shout if your stuck.

Edited November 9, 2009 by barry luxton

[wurzel]

Sorry, Gonzo!

 

(Take yourself a bit seriously, eh?)

 

 

 

 

Are you saying you don't then?

 

And cod stocks are nowhere as bad as you say they are, my gill nets are really just as sustainable as your fish traps and I'm still considered the hard working salt of the earth I was 35 years ago.

[H.A.]

And cod stocks are nowhere as bad as you say they are, my gill nets are really just as sustainable as your fish traps and I'm still considered the hard working salt of the earth I was 35 years ago.

 

Your comments always make me laugh.

 

[big_cod]

Gone off topic, unfortunatly.

 

 

Please don't big up your web site on my behalf. Couple of years ago you invited me to join, however at that time i declined. The reason then and as now is your boat fishing section is severly contrained in the type of fishing you do. The majority is targeting codling with the odd cod thrown in, drifting. As i have told you previous, in the channel there is a huge diversity of specis and for a great part decent sized fish compared with your normal boat fishing landings of 95% codling and again the odd cod. No thanks.

 

John Brennan and myself before he sadly left us was planning to do just that, some decent boat fishing off your coast. It's a shame it didn't come to fruition as he certainly beleived that they are there, as do i. So as you can see my friend, it's not me that is lacking. All i need is some forward thinking skipper as he was and i would be up there.

 

Something constructive, short memory? I think i put up a couple of posts this year showing newbies to the sport of boat fishing and to their success in the first catches, happens quite alot from my point of view and i also enjoy doing it, always willing to lend a hand. Give us a shout if your stuck.

 

So what you are saying barry fishing is crap of whitby i have customers who fish with me every month and have also visitited plymouth ,limington and exmouth this year which they do every year but beleive me what they have had this year away form whitby this year doesnt make whitby crap just the opposit and these are good anglers and have going going from top to bottom off the country for the last 25 years as for species there are many off the east coast if you want to target them but if your customers ask you to target a certain species which up this part of the world is cod which unfortunatly you you dont have a lot of down your neck of the woods then you give them what they want if cod was in abundace off the south coast every charterboat down there would be targetting them you sound a bit like mell russ hates whitby because it has the best cod fishing here in uk as for ankhoring wrecks its all been done before the late john uttley who was not just a very good skipper but an extremly good angler as well and who fished for england did it in the 70ss we have very few conger off our coast which is the only extra benefit to what you would catch with the pick down .

 

If your not happy with fish like these then your heads up your arse these were caught a couple of days ago some people would give there right hand to catch fish like these.

 

 

 

paul.

Edited November 10, 2009 by big_cod

[Brian Carragher]

The reason most of the charter boats out of Whitby fish the way they do and fish for what they do is quite simple, its what the paying customer wants. They want to catch cod as big as they can and as many as they can when conditions allow, so its a case of drifting for cod and making a living giving the paying public what they want.

 

There are a couple of other boats that do different things and that number is increasing with more anglers prepared to blank to try their hand at something different and sometimes a bit special. John Wiltord with the Two Dogs specialises in pollack fishing and has a good reputation for being able to deliver and his boat is regulary full with anglers wanting to catch quality pollack.

 

Rich Ward of Shytorque and Malcolm Pittman of Seaspray do regular shark trips and are very successful at catching porbeagles and putting out the information on their trips which are heavily oversubscribed and I've been out myself with Malc on his boat porgy fishing

 

There are any amount of smaller boats that fish for all manner of species in the inshore waters around our coast and I've had a particulary good year with any amount of cod, real quality pollack from the inshore waters and a LOT of bass taken on freshwater gear(light spinning rods and 8lb mono) using all manner of plugs, jellies,shads, lures and bait so theres more to this areas fishing that many would give us credit for

 

I too would have been out with John Brennan had things not turned out the way they had as I too like to try something different and don't have a problem blanking to build up my knowledge, my only regret this summer is not trying to catch tope this summer as I think I will and know where I'll be doing it but the fantastic pollack fishing this year spoiled it for me, if you know what I mean

 

Theres more to this area sea fishing wise thats still to be discovered I'm sure of that but it will take more small boat anglers to make the change and lead the way, you can't blame skippers for making a living the best way they can as anglers have a tendency to vote with their feet and go to where they get what they want

 

Conger fishing up here will take off and some of the boats are already practicing their technique and when they crack it just wait for the results, I think it may well surprise one or two

[barry luxton]

So what you are saying barry fishing is crap of whitby i have customers who fish with me every month and have also visitited plymouth ,limington and exmouth this year which they do every year but beleive me what they have had this year away form whitby this year doesnt make whitby crap just the opposit and these are good anglers and have going going from top to bottom off the country for the last 25 years as for species there are many off the east coast if you want to target them but if your customers ask you to target a certain species which up this part of the world is cod which unfortunatly you you dont have a lot of down your neck of the woods then you give them what they want if cod was in abundace off the south coast every charterboat down there would be targetting them you sound a bit like mell russ hates whitby because it has the best cod fishing here in uk as for ankhoring wrecks its all been done before the late john uttley who was not just a very good skipper but an extremly good angler as well and who fished for england did it in the 70ss we have very few conger off our coast which is the only extra benefit to what you would catch with the pick down .

 

Crap, no i didn't say that, you did though. Plymouth, yup done that one, only one trip, had ling all day long at anchor,two tides, upto 35lb. Havent done exmouth, done dartmouth, paignton, brixham this year, can't remember just how many fish, enough to keep me interested though. Done brigton and weymouth a few times this year, loads of codling few cod, double figure pollack etc. Missed out on thirty or forty conger eel this year due to a medical reason i couldn't go, make up for it next year though as i would like to to think i'm owed a ton up one, whats me chances? Are you saying your anglers didn't a good time fishing away from whitby this year?

 

quote,

 

That has to be one of the most crazy statements i have ever heard in a long time and you work for the local NSFC john the sea isnt a 20th in numbers of cod as to what it was in the 80ss 87 and 88 the small codling in 87 was unbeleivable that winter do you want me to give you links on angling forums showing just how bad the fishing is this year its unbeleivable record crap catches on the shore pair trawling is killing the local stock how you are allowed to use near on 1000 horse power right upto the beach is madness pair trawling effort is 10-1 against a single trawl that is what cefas got when they did a study about 6or 7 years ago by 3 local boats.

 

 

This is a post which 1 angler posted up regarding the john smiths open match on sunday this part of the uk used to offer probably some of the best shore fishing for cod now its it has gone so far down its shocking and something needs to be about the present situation fast people are asking serious questions. WHY.

Edited November 10, 2009 by barry luxton

[big_cod]

Crap, no i didn't say that, you did though. Plymouth, yup done that one, only one trip, had ling all day long at anchor,two tides, upto 35lb. Havent done exmouth, done dartmouth, paignton, brixham this year, can't remember just how many fish, enough to keep me interested though. Done brigton and weymouth a few times this year, loads of codling few cod, double figure pollack etc. Missed out on thirty or forty conger eel this year due to a medical reason i couldn't go, make up for it next year though as i would like to to think i'm owed a ton up one, whats me chances? Are you saying your anglers didn't a good time fishing away from whitby this year?

 

quote,

 

That has to be one of the most crazy statements i have ever heard in a long time and you work for the local NSFC john the sea isnt a 20th in numbers of cod as to what it was in the 80ss 87 and 88 the small codling in 87 was unbeleivable that winter do you want me to give you links on angling forums showing just how bad the fishing is this year its unbeleivable record crap catches on the shore pair trawling is killing the local stock how you are allowed to use near on 1000 horse power right upto the beach is madness pair trawling effort is 10-1 against a single trawl that is what cefas got when they did a study about 6or 7 years ago by 3 local boats.

 

 

This is a post which 1 angler posted up regarding the john smiths open match on sunday this part of the uk used to offer probably some of the best shore fishing for cod now its it has gone so far down its shocking and something needs to be about the present situation fast people are asking serious questions. WHY.

 

There has been a serious lack of small codling which 9 times of ten are the first to show up on the shore in early winter brian we might have nowhere near the quantity of cod we once had but compaired to anywhere else in the country they dont come anywhere near.

 

paul.

[Brian Carragher]

think you meant to put Barry's name there instead of mine Paul

[big_cod]

think you meant to put Barry's name there instead of mine Paul

 

Sorry brian had the grandbairn screaming in my ear wanting me put youtube on a little disracted.

 

paul.