VERY BIG BREAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RUDD]

My fishing club have just stocked some very big

bream into one of our lakes as follows :

1 x 16lb

4 between 14lb/15lb

6 between 11lb/13lb

 

The total weight of the 11 fish was 141lb.

 

The reason for this is that any small fish stocked

go missing due to big black flying pests.

We are also stocking 150 tench between 2lb/3lb

to try and counter problem!!!!!!

The idea is that 1. they cant eat these fish and

2. more people fish this water (it is rare to see more than three people there in the summer and any in the winter) so that any flying pests are encouraged to stay away!

 

Does anyone have any ideas how to catch these bream! There are already upto 100 carp with weights upto 25lb, approx 500lbs bream upto 7/8lb

and tench, chub, rudd and roach (if they survived

the winter! (we stocked over 2000 roach last season upto a half pound but they havent been caught in very big numbers)).

 

As you can see it will be difficult getting

through the other fish (hopefully!)

 

The water is up to 30foot deep in the middle

and does not have many features.

 

I have thought of trying to stalk the bream but this could prove very hard.

 

ANY IDEAS PLEASE

 

Also what is the currant bream record for the UK

and Suffolk.

 

Please help. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Zinky]

Bream, the mystery gets deeper.

A few years back we helped out on a fish in distress call just up the road from our pool.

Bream and tench, 15 dustbins of fish and before you all get on your high horse all legal and above board transported the few miles by the Environment Agency and local Rangers.

These fish have not been seen or caught since??? Tench at 6lb, Bream to 10lb has just vanished. The pool is full of natural life and is not fished on mass just a few anglers through the week who will catch carp to 22lb, Roach and Rudd some pushing 3lb, Perch and Crucian’s.

It’s total mystery where they have gone???

Any advice and if you want to try for these fish just email and a trip will be arranged.

Please No Angling Bandits

[phonebush]

Dragonbat,

Someday perhaps I will take you up on the offer. For now just too far away.

Bream in the US often take my "made up" snails. I have my grandchildren collect snail shells (5 cents each, expensive but worth it) and make up a paste of fishmeal, brewers yeast base. In the base of the shell I put a small bit of crushed Alka-Seltzer, depending on shell size, then loosely pack the paste. I try to achieve as near a neutral boyancy as possible and as vertical presentation as possible. I am fishing for carp when using this setup.

I am not even sure we are talking the same fish, bream. I have never see one over 5 pounds much less 15 pounds.

Phone

[Charlie]

Mainline Active-8 boilies. 2 x 12mm on a hair over pva bag of trout pellets.

 

Can't get away frombream up to 12lb on Redesmere, Cheshire using this!!

 

Charlie

[phil dean]

What a hard life you must have charlie

 

Saying "can't get away from bream over 3lb on my local pub's pond" just hasn't got the same ring to it.

 

I assume that these baits are intended for carp??? Or has redmire become the home of the elusive bream specialist I've yet to meet.

[Julian]

Charlie,

 

quote:

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Mainline Active-8 boilies. 2 x 12mm on a hair over pva bag of trout pellets.

 

Can't get away from bream up to 12lb on Redesmere, Cheshire using this!!

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I know what you mean… I’ve taken big bream (and tench) on exactly the same set-up on Capesthorne Top Pool (next to Redesmere) they’re addicted to the stuff..!!

 

Julian

[Zinky]

Redesmere not fished the place for 20 years,

Use to wade in and fish the waggler double red maggot and bream to 3lb to 13lb and some very good tench to 8lb. Ground bait the night before fish crack of dawn till around lunch time best weight well over 250lb.

What happened to those good old days "Active-8 boilies" what have we come to. Best Bream by my mucker just short of 14lb on worm and red maggot.

Must try the place again ??

[Newt]

phonebush:

I am not even sure we are talking the same fish, bream. I have never see one over 5 pounds much less 15 pounds.

Phone - completely different fish and one we don't have AFAIK. Slimy like some of the shad are with similar habits.

 

I thought the same thing when carpnet was alive and some of the UK folk started talking Bream.

 

Since the world's record sunfish (bluegill and the like and called generically Bream in the US) is no where near 10lbs, I thought they were joking.

[Charlie]

phil dean:

What a hard life you must have charlie

 

Saying "can't get away from bream over 3lb on my local pub's pond" just hasn't got the same ring to it.

 

I assume that these baits are intended for carp??? Or has redmire become the home of the elusive bream specialist I've yet to meet.

Yes they are intended for carp. Fishing over the top of trout pellets is a non-starter when doing an overnighter between work. I had six one night doing this - average 8-10lb. The carp didn't get a look in! On another occasion I had two from the plank swim in a night and weighed them both - 11lb 4oz and 12lb 6oz.

 

It is nice to catch big bream but you don't get the sense of achievement when using 15lb line and 12ft 2 3/4lb test curve rods. Definitely a better approach than the groundbait/maggot approach, just scale your tackle down.

 

If you look nationally on big bream captures you will find that carp anglers are catching more. Look at Jim Shelleys results on Horton last year - fish to 18lb+. The bream seem to latch onto the best bait source and in this day and age that is boilies!

 

Charlie

 

[ 23 April 2002, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: Charlie ]

[poledark]

Funny when you think about it, that boilies were invented to defeat the bream, and now they are catching monsters on them!

 

One day I will get a double figure bream

 

Den