Do you use a special reel for feeder fishing?

[Steve Walker]

Even worse than bolt rigs, there are some situations now where I would even use a bait boat

 

Steady on old chap, they'll be round to take your floppy hat away if you aren't careful!

[Dales]

No mention of Delkims with a quiver just yet, he hasn't lost it completly.

 

One of my favourite ways to fish, great for Perch, Roach and Bream.

[Anderoo]

Steady on old chap, they'll be round to take your floppy hat away if you aren't careful!

 

I'm camo'd up mate, they'll never find me

 

EDIT: I'm also interested in the reason to fish a quivertip and a bite alarm, I can't see any benefit?

Edited December 7, 2010 by Anderoo

[Tigger]

Teme man, I'm not on a wind-up. When bream fishing, a bait boat would be a fantastic way to get all the necessary groundbait out to the spots without the need for hours of disrupting spodding. A real boat would be even better.

 

Tigger, I do like a challenge but for me that's a challenge too far! There's a time and a place for the little bolt rigs, and (for me) this is one of them.

 

For some balance, I spend all autumn and winter on the rivers either watching a quivertip or trotting a float, so I'm not a proper antichrist

 

 

 

I've nothing against bolt rigs, I very often use them as you know. I just think float fishing can be far more productive in certain waters/conditions, plus it's a nicer way to fish even at night with a starligt or battery float.

I think we've all gone off thread a little bit, as usual . To get back on track... I don't think a freespool reel is necessary for quivertipping. When quivertipping you should be watching the quiver and striking at a bit be it a pull round or a drop back so deffo no need for a baitrunner, any egg beater willl do.

[Dales]

OK educate me.

 

Simple, just fish the way you would while quivertipping. The main difference being that the Delkims will register a bite before the quiver tip moves. Often the alarm will register a bite that a quiver on it's own will not. If you set the sensitivity on Delkims as high as they will go, they will register slight knocks and tiny movements of the baits. Not sure this would work with a roller style alarm, but I have caught extra fish from shy biting fish by using the alarms.

 

Most items of tackle are over priced in my opinion and its hard to justify why but I do think Delkims are on a whole different level to other bite alarms as they do not rely on the line being moved and vibration is enough to register a bite and so when used for any form of ledgering they improve bite indication.

 

I find it odd that Delkims are thought of as alarms for "Carpers" when in fact they offer more functionality to specimen hunters of other species then Carp Anglers require.

[Anderoo]

But then why use a quiver tip at all?

[Dales]

But then why use a quiver tip at all?

 

For the shear fun of watching the tip swing around. When ledgering I always fish multiple rod set ups, be it 2, 3 or 4 rods and with the best will in the world you can not watch every rod at the same time. While playing a fish on one rod, it's good to know that any bites on your other rods will be registered. Granted you can drop the quivertip and fish an alternative rod but why settle for one form of bite indication when you can have two. I will often start on the alarms and if things pick up with confident bites and plenty of action then I switch the alarm off and just watch the tip but on long sessions it just makes sense to have the added bite indication.

 

To be honest it's a bit of a hang over from using standard roller alarms for specimen fishing on long sessions. Using a tip gave better bite indication because I would often pick up little knocks on a quiver tip that would not register on a roller style alarm. When I upgraded to Delkims it was the opposite the alarms now gave extra info on subtle bits before the tip even registers.

 

I have stuck with the system because I believe it offers the best of both worlds, however the sensativity of Delkims does wipe out the benefit of the tip but it's hard to beat seeing a tip fly around. But if I had to fish with roller alarms then I would certainly opt for quiver tip rods.

[Dales]

Dales I assume you are setting your rods parallel? ie not beachcaster style?

 

I can see some uses for alarms of course, when fishing a set up in line with the rod and the rods set down, but any other way I don't understand if there would be any benefit in using the things. apart from the obvious when you feel the need to have a wander etc, but surely not with a tip where the target species is barbel or chub perhaps?

 

I understand that Delkims are the favoured make for the barbel lads who havn't left their old bad habits behind

 

Never tried it for Barbel or Chub and doubt it would offer much if the rods are set up high. The benefits are for still water fishing and for longish sessions when you can not maintain a 100% concentration all the time, but still want the fun of fishing with a tip. I also prefer the action of feeder rods when playing a fish and would rather catch and play a fish on one then some of the rods designed for rod pod style fishing.

[larsagi2010]

I'm camo'd up mate, they'll never find me

 

EDIT: I'm also interested in the reason to fish a quivertip and a bite alarm, I can't see any benefit?

 

 

Reasons I use quiver-tip with bite alarms are as follows:

 

1. I take the kids with me, it enables me to see to them and be instantly alerted to any kind of movement of the baits in the water.

 

2. If you need a slash, you can be alerted and pee all over your pants while scrambling back to the rod

 

3. I find that a good sensitive bite alarm will often pick up bites before the quiver-tip moves, or sometimes pick up bites the tip doesn't even register.

 

4. In winter conditions the bite alarm gives you the edge over a quiver-tip moving in the wind. Normally if the tip is being blown about a little I cannot see the little vibrations, and small twitches... The bite alarm registers these and I can be more prepared.

 

5. I find that the bite alarm screaming off is quite an adrenaline raising part of fishing.... Gives an edge over the tip just bending round.

 

6. You can set the alarms and do some watercraft, its surprising how many people are looking at their quiver-tip or float while masses of huge Carp are swimming 10 meters away too their left....

 

Downsides.....

 

1. Alarms can be annoying to other anglers.... Especially when theirs is going off and your getting sweet F.A in your swim!

 

2. It can be considered ''Lazy'' as some people take the alarms and let them do everything while they lie down on a £68757 carp chair

 

3. It doesn't require as much skill, you can be sniffing boilies, playing with matches.... Even reading a book... While the gear does everything for you, like telling you when the fish is on..... ''Ear fishing''

Edited December 7, 2010 by larsagi2010

[Anderoo]

Reasons I use quiver-tip with bite alarms are as follows:

 

1. I take the kids with me, it enables me to see to them and be instantly alerted to any kind of movement of the baits in the water.

 

2. If you need a slash, you can be alerted and pee all over your pants while scrambling back to the rod

 

3. I find that a good sensitive bite alarm will often pick up bites before the quiver-tip moves, or sometimes pick up bites the tip doesn't even register.

 

4. In winter conditions the bite alarm gives you the edge over a quiver-tip moving in the wind. Normally if the tip is being blown about a little I cannot see the little vibrations, and small twitches... The bite alarm registers these and I can be more prepared.

 

5. I find that the bite alarm screaming off is quite an adrenaline raising part of fishing.... Gives an edge over the tip just bending round.

 

6. You can set the alarms and do some watercraft, its surprising how many people are looking at their quiver-tip or float while masses of huge Carp are swimming 10 meters away too their left....

 

Downsides.....

 

1. Alarms can be annoying to other anglers.... Especially when theirs is going off and your getting sweet F.A in your swim!

 

2. It can be considered ''Lazy'' as some people take the alarms and let them do everything while they lie down on a £68757 carp chair

 

3. It doesn't require as much skill, you can be sniffing boilies, playing with matches.... Even reading a book... While the gear does everything for you, like telling you when the fish is on..... ''Ear fishing''

 

All good reasons to use alarms, but I still can't see why you'd use a quivertip too.

 

I tried fishing with 2 quivertips a few times and found it really hard, so now if I'm fishing the tip I only use 1 rod and watch it all the time. If I'm fishing 2 or more rods I'll usually use bobbins and alarms.

 

I'm not having a go, I'm just interested, as it's not something I would do.