Worms 221 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 It's so much easier when you are controlling a fish with a finger in the side of a centre-pin reel, but when the only control of the line is the grip you have on the line sliding between your fingers, and the fish lunges and letting go of the line makes it hard to get the line back, you are into a different ball-game. 'Palming' the reel with your reel hand whilst 'fighting' the fish with the rod gives good control. In theory, a longer rod and a lighter line means less line in the water and less drag on the line. On rivers I frequently end up with my right arm fully extended above my head if I've got a decent fish on so as to lift the line off the water.....trees allowing of course! Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me! Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Roskilly 25 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 'Palming' the reel with your reel hand whilst 'fighting' the fish with the rod gives good control. That works when I'm centre-pinning, but when I'm fly-fishing most of the line is off the reel and lying in untidy (and sometimes tangly loops (especially around my muddy feet) on the bank. I've not yet met something that has taken all the loose retrieved line back onto the water and I can start playing the fish 'off the reel'. And finding myself down to the backing seems a distant dream (well until I get to fish for some of the monsters in the syndicate water I can start fishing in April ). RNLI Shoreline MemberMember of the Angling Trust Link to post Share on other sites
Worms 221 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 That works when I'm centre-pinning, but when I'm fly-fishing most of the line is off the reel and lying in untidy (and sometimes tangly loops (especially around my muddy feet) on the bank. I've not yet met something that has taken all the loose retrieved line back onto the water and I can start playing the fish 'off the reel'. And finding myself down to the backing seems a distant dream (well until I get to fish for some of the monsters in the syndicate water I can start fishing in April ). Ah! as I fish running waters I tend to keep winding my slack back on the reel, otherwise it catches on your waders, and the slightest obstruction in the water. Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me! Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Walker 941 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 And finding myself down to the backing seems a distant dream (well until I get to fish for some of the monsters in the syndicate water I can start fishing in April ). Surely all you need for that is a mullet? Link to post Share on other sites
Vagabond 1013 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) when I'm fly-fishing most of the line is off the reel and lying in untidy (and sometimes tangly loops (especially around my muddy feet) on the bank. I've not yet met something that has taken all the loose retrieved line back onto the water and I can start playing the fish 'off the reel'. There is another trap lurking there - the possibility of the last loop of retrieved line catching around the reel handle as the fish runs. The way to prevent/minimise that happening is to always have the line from the reel running forward to the little finger of the reel hand and then out between the little and third fingers. The loose coils of retrieved line are thus gripped between index finger and thumb at the fish end, and between third and fourth fingers at the reel end. ...and of course, if the fish does not take all the retrieved line, it is an easy matter, whilst controlling the business end with index finger and thumb, to wind the loose line onto the reel under light tension using 3rd & 4th fingers to apply it. It is pretty elementary, yet rarely mentioned in advice for beginners to fly fishing - can I ask, how many of our experienced fly fishers use that grip? or is a case of grandmothers and eggs? ...and Leon, once you have mastered the basics of playing sizeable fish on fly gear, do as Steve suggests and transfer your fly experience to mullet fishing. Flyfishing running water needs a further step up in skills from stillwater flyfishing, but the experience of catching a decent mullet on fly is IMHO one of the pinnacles of achievement in an angler's life. Edited March 29, 2011 by Vagabond RNLI Governor World species 471 : UK species 105 : English species 95 . Certhia's world species - 215 Eclectic "husband and wife combined" world species 501 "Nothing matters very much, few things matter at all" - Plato ...only things like fresh bait and cold beer... Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Roskilly 25 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) I've not yet met something that has taken all the loose retrieved line back onto the water and I can start playing the fish 'off the reel'. Yay! It happened today. A trout between 3-4lbs took the fly and headed off determinedly All the loose line went through the rod rings, then it was taking line against the ratchet on the reel. Unfortunately it decided on a change of direction before reaching the backing , but no sooner had I wound back the slackening line then it was off again against the ratchet once more. More skirmishes as I wound line back, only for the fish to pull it off again, before it was finally netted and released. Edited March 30, 2011 by Leon Roskilly RNLI Shoreline MemberMember of the Angling Trust Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Roskilly 25 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 ...and Leon, once you have mastered the basics of playing sizeable fish on fly gear, do as Steve suggests and transfer your fly experience to mullet fishing. Flyfishing running water needs a further step up in skills from stillwater flyfishing, but the experience of catching a decent mullet on fly is IMHO one of the pinnacles of achievement in an angler's life. Having been driven nearly mad with frustration whilst targeting mullet with float and bread and centrepin, I start to shiver uncontrollably whenever the thought of fly-fishing for them crosses my mind! RNLI Shoreline MemberMember of the Angling Trust Link to post Share on other sites
chuby 0 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Having been driven nearly mad with frustration whilst targeting mullet with float and bread and centrepin, I start to shiver uncontrollably whenever the thought of fly-fishing for them crosses my mind! :D Leon,my mate had a go at them with fly(and dynamite) on the Arun last year,they drove him bonkers :D Edited March 30, 2011 by chuby Link to post Share on other sites
Tony U 36 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Medway Mullet on the fly, mmmmmm now there's a challenge! Tony After a certain age, if you don't wake up aching in every joint, you are probably dead. Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Roskilly 25 Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 Medway Mullet on the fly, mmmmmm now there's a challenge! I think I'd start in the Swale. RNLI Shoreline MemberMember of the Angling Trust Link to post Share on other sites
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