IP Addresses alone cannot be used to identify users?

[Chris Goddard]

Must be honest I saw this and straight away thought it made absolute sense! I use a masker for MY IP address and how many others on this forum alone do? But makes for very interesting reading I thought? More especially as a case was cited where a kiddie porn baron had used the neighbours IP but piggy backing his connection!!

 

Again how many do that?? I know I have in the past! PIGGY BACKED that is!

 

Or is that a case of TOO much info.......

 

http://www.out-law.com/page-11901

Edited May 9, 2011 by Chris Goddard

[chesters1]

how does the masker work? ,surely to use an ISP it knows your true IP address ,you may mask it to third parties (i presume) but ISP's record everything or everywhere you go on the web and by law has to hand that info to "interested" third parties including the law.

i presume if you piggy back an unencrypted connection you are regarded as the user which is the problem ,i wonder if there's programs out there that test your wireless connection for holes as well as those exploiting them

Edited May 9, 2011 by chesters1

[Chris Goddard]

Yes as you rightly say your TRUE IP is known. But to whom I know not?? It is still displayed on the page where I mask my own. And I would have thought my true ISP knows it too? But how would anyone else know it who collected it (As you HAVE to show it?) and I can alter mine at will to any of dozens??

 

As to the rest of the question wait till someone who KNOWS what they are saying comes along eh?

[chesters1]

reading it again its about networks so there is no individual IP as all the computers run from i server (s) so they are terminals.

but ofcourse unless the network is open there would be a user name involved but "easily" forged .

its a case of stating an excuse not to do something when its almost impossible to do do it anyway

ofcourse if it were you or i having someone piggy back our connection we would have to prove it was not us a reverse of the concept innocent until proven guilty

its strange that someone can upload a song to youtube ,youtube can display it and you can watch it but if you download a copy of it its illegal

Edited May 10, 2011 by chesters1

[RobStubbs]

IP addresses are not always static, virgin for example assigns a new one each time you connect (or at least a different one). My work PC which is on our work network does have a fixed IP address.

 

Rob.

[chesters1]

hmmmm it seems my ip address is known but my location is either andover or wincanton on the two sites that show me what my address is ,why the difference ? and why not my real location

a third one gives :Your IP: xx.xxx.82.213 United Kingdom Near: Crewe, Cheshire, United Kingdom .are we worrying about nothing?

Edited May 10, 2011 by chesters1

[Now there's a right un.]

All internet usage connected to an IP address is, as far as I am told, stored with the Internet Service Provider for a period of 5 years and only if a Policeman or Judge requests the information can it be released.

 

It does not matter how many times you mask or change the IP.

 

If you have an unsecured wireless network then it is impossible to know who is Piggy Backing your network.

Although some wireless broadband router models should give an indication of Piggy Back usage none will identify the user nor the number of users.

 

I Piggy Backed a neighbours network once when my own service was interrupted by a network fault.

I had the decency, however, of helping him secure his network from unwelcome intrusions as his was completely open.

[Steve Walker]

My sister accidentally used her neighbour's broadband for months - it was only when he secured it and it stopped working that she asked me to help her fix the problem with "her" broadband!

[ColinW]

The chances are that you are accessing the net via a Network Address Translation system. In that case the big wide world never sees your IP address, it only sees the IP address of your internet service provider's local network. The same external address is used by everyone on that network. The IP you use is seen only within the ISP's local network. If anyone has information that narrows you down closer than the local network (which might be the town you live in, say) then your ISP has given them that information.

[chesters1]

All internet usage connected to an IP address is, as far as I am told, stored with the Internet Service Provider for a period of 5 years and only if a Policeman or Judge requests the information can it be released.

 

It does not matter how many times you mask or change the IP.

 

If you have an unsecured wireless network then it is impossible to know who is Piggy Backing your network.

Although some wireless broadband router models should give an indication of Piggy Back usage none will identify the user nor the number of users.

 

I Piggy Backed a neighbours network once when my own service was interrupted by a network fault.

I had the decency, however, of helping him secure his network from unwelcome intrusions as his was completely open.

 

you would have thought so but i bet it comes under the umbrella term "interested third parties" (IE the data flogged off like the gov do to anyone with even the most flimsy excuse to need it)

 

Old quote but not able to find a newer one but i'm sure theres some out there as the laws go through parliament:

"Still, of most concern will be who has access to view this data and how it is regulated. Recent drafts and amendments have indicated that local councils, the National Health Service (NHS) and even the Post Office could be granted permission."

 

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2009/04/2...ion-pounds.html

Edited May 11, 2011 by chesters1