What are your Favourite Fish to Catch?

[gozzer]

You could be prosecuted for starting a riot after posting that , but as a whole we tend to be well rounded individuals on this site but imagine what would happen if that got posted on one of those other fishing forums that other people might frequent

 

I have posted it on another site Stephen. The result wasn't pretty, and I had to explain that I did know who my father was.

 

John.

[Dales]

I have posted it on another site Stephen. The result wasn't pretty, and I had to explain that I did know who my father was.

 

John.

 

But a very sensable way to deal with there problem down under and seems like a good way to deal with the Silver carp issue in the US.

 

Maybe the Aussies could turn there imported European Carp in to fish meal pellets and export them back to Europe to be used for Carp Fishing and if they run short we could export some more Carp back to Australia as breeding stock and then they could export the Carp Meal Pellets back to Europe etc, etc ,etc

 

Who said invasive species are a bad thing, with a little entrepreneurial flair you could launch whole industries around them. So you loose a little native flora and fauna along the way but think of all the positive commercial out comes if we were over run with non natives like the Aussies

[Worms]

Haven't you got any otters in the States Phone? After all, every UK carp angler knows that otters will eat all of the carp in a fishery overnight....problem sorted

[Emma two]

Haven't you got any otters in the States Phone? After all, every UK carp angler knows that otters will eat all of the carp in a fishery overnight....problem sorted

 

 

They have bears, which can eat all the fish and the anglers....problem sorted!

[Phone]

Worms,

 

Emma's right. But to answer your question specifically = yes. Otters are native (thought you'ld like that). They actually play a pretty important role in the balance of nature over here. One execption, the "smallmouth bass" and "white bass" guys hate them. Sort of, not anything near what I read about otters in the UK. Someone will tell you the equalivant of these two species. It was a big deal (positive deal pretty much by all involved that they were re-introduced into our Ozark National Forest 4 or 5 years ago. Nothing can desimate a population like humans. That's what happened to the otters down there.

 

It's really hard to "explain" how many fish we have. We are really really blessed. Thankfully, everyday more people start to notice that fact.

 

Phone

[Phone]

Worms,

 

Just so you know there are not enough otters on the planet to make a difference I've cut and pasted a couple selective paragraphs about Utah Lake. If this doesn't give you the message I don't know how I can.

Here it is! (For the carp guy, don't bytch, tell us what to do - we'll listen to any suggestions - no matter how silly).

 

""SALT LAKE CITY -- What do you do if you have 100 million ugly fish in the wrong place? If you're the federal government, you steer a million dollars toward the problem and hope it will do some good. That's what began happening in Utah Wednesday. The federal government issued a check to pay for a large-scale commercial fishing operation on Utah Lake.

 

There are 100 million carp, but the goal is to tackle the 7 million biggest ones to create a cleaner lake that's more fun to fish.

 

They're big, they're slimy, they're ugly. Not everyone's idea of a tasty treat. "To eat? It's not my first choice," said commercial fisherman Bill Loy.He has caught more than a million pounds (edit: Phone, that's in 2008 in the "pilot" program) of carp in a government pilot program. Now he's revving it up, thanks to a carp-shaped check for a million dollars, intended to drive a stake through the heart of the carp population."" [You probably guessed, carp are not very well liked in Utah]

 

Phone again - the byline is 2008 - the project is renewed annually and currently the catch is up around 5 or 6 million pounds (total weight is just a guess on my part) of 4 to 6 lb fish . Since the state of Utah, and the fish, are so far from any processor the worst possible outcome is what happens to these fish (can you say backhoe). Each 6 lb carp has up to 300,000 babies a year.

Frankly I hate it - but what can you do?? This is NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE I could site.

 

Phone

Edited August 18, 2011 by Phone

[Worms]

Worms,

 

Just so you know there are not enough otters on the planet to make a difference I've cut and pasted a couple selective paragraphs about Utah Lake. If this doesn't give you the message I don't know how I can.

Here it is! (For the carp guy, don't bytch, tell us what to do - we'll listen to any suggestions - no matter how silly).

 

""SALT LAKE CITY -- What do you do if you have 100 million ugly fish in the wrong place? If you're the federal government, you steer a million dollars toward the problem and hope it will do some good. That's what began happening in Utah Wednesday. The federal government issued a check to pay for a large-scale commercial fishing operation on Utah Lake.

 

There are 100 million carp, but the goal is to tackle the 7 million biggest ones to create a cleaner lake that's more fun to fish.

 

They're big, they're slimy, they're ugly. Not everyone's idea of a tasty treat. "To eat? It's not my first choice," said commercial fisherman Bill Loy.He has caught more than a million pounds (edit: Phone, that's in 2008 in the "pilot" program) of carp in a government pilot program. Now he's revving it up, thanks to a carp-shaped check for a million dollars, intended to drive a stake through the heart of the carp population."" [You probably guessed, carp are not very well liked in Utah]

 

Phone again - the byline is 2008 - the project is renewed annually and currently the catch is up around 5 or 6 million pounds (total weight is just a guess on my part) of 4 to 6 lb fish . Since the state of Utah, and the fish, are so far from any processor the worst possible outcome is what happens to these fish (can you say backhoe). Each 6 lb carp has up to 300,000 babies a year.

Frankly I hate it - but what can you do?? This is NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE I could site.

 

Phone

You don't have to tell me about otters Phone....although I appreciate the courtesy...try telling the UK carp noddies!

 

Interesting point, when I saw your age a while ago I dicn't think that you'd be up for a bit of a wind up...obviously you are...more to come no doubt

[Worms]

They have bears, which can eat all the fish and the anglers....problem sorted!

[Dales]

They have bears, which can eat all the fish and the anglers....problem sorted!

 

And we think we have problems some times when we go fishing

 

Phone

 

Do your Fish and Wildlife Service guys provide any guidence on what to do if a Bear starts to take interest in you or your catch while out fishing?

 

Run, Scream, Panic, Stay calm, Climb a tree, Chuck rocks at it, Chuck your rod in the water, Shoot it, Sing if you go down to the woods today.........

 

Or is it best just to trip your mate up and empty your packed lunch on him. Then let him know how much your freindship used to mean to you then run away as fast as your legs will carry you

[Phone]

Dales,

 

Access to some waters are limited during salmon runs. Other than that, you are pretty much on your own, There are "parks" where bears intercept traffic and look for handouts from noddie campers and families on vacation. Lots of signs that say "Don't Feed The Bears". People think they are safe inside a car. BAD MISTAKE! Still, they feed the bears anyway. The "best" advice is the same over here as it is over there. Use common sense when a "situation arises". It is stupid people who usually get in harms way.

 

From a sport fisherman point of view "bears" aren't really a huge problem. The purist, you know the guy who goes solo grayling (or is it greyling) fishing in a pristine stream in the spring does run a slight risk. I confess, I haven't done any "excursion" fishing since the 1970's. In those days you "packed with a purpose" (I liked a 45 cal long colt for the ft/lbs of energy it could generate). In today's political environment I'm just not sure what "the right thing to do" really is.

 

The best person to ask is Budgie I suspect. The bear's favorite "deterent" is baked goods. Donuts were always at hand and really really do work. Forget the fact the bear smelled the donuts in the first place, that's why he came around. Unless, of course, you get between a sow and her cub. That's the worst possible circumstance. No win for the interloper(sp).

 

Phone

 

My "best ever" such trip was 600 miles from the nearest telephone. You have no idea what a relief that can be for the soul to count 30 or more varieties of moss without moving an inch.