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Means testing is always a tricky area. In principle, I don't see why we should be giving bus passes, winter fuel payments or free prescriptions to people who don't need them when we are having to make cuts elsewhere. On the other hand, means testing creates situations which feel unfair, where someone who has made provision for himself feels penalised relative to someone who has not - perhaps Aesop's grasshopper would have the last laugh these days. Means testing is also bureaucratic and expensive to administer and creates its own unfairness when it doesn't properly handle everybody's personal situation correctly.

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Means testing is always a tricky area. In principle, I don't see why we should be giving bus passes, winter fuel payments or free prescriptions to people who don't need them when we are having to make cuts elsewhere. On the other hand, means testing creates situations which feel unfair, where someone who has made provision for himself feels penalised relative to someone who has not - perhaps Aesop's grasshopper would have the last laugh these days. Means testing is also bureaucratic and expensive to administer and creates its own unfairness when it doesn't properly handle everybody's personal situation correctly.

 

 

Totally agree steve those well off dont need free bus passes but the less well off do, start a means test on the issue and it will end in tears for many old people who just dont like the hassle in other words it will simple kill off the bus passes by making it means testing it sloves the problem 99% wont bother claiming it because of the hassle simple arithmatic i hope cameron holds his head in shame.

 

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Totally agree steve those well off dont need free bus passes but the less well off do, start a means test on the issue and it will end in tears for many old people who just dont like the hassle in other words it will simple kill off the bus passes by making it means testing it sloves the problem 99% wont bother claiming it because of the hassle simple arithmatic i hope cameron holds his head in shame.

 

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I agree that a lot wont claim because of the mither of a means test my owd fella could claim benefits of some kind bu tc ant be done with any hassle he says he can manage as he is although he cant walk more than 30 paces and has macular degeneration so is registered blind ,also pride has a lot to do with it with these old folk .Dont get me wrong I take him anywhere he wants to go but what about those who have no one to look after their needs

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And what does this mean:

 

David Cameron has said he will not touch the benefits in this parliament

 

FFS there's a pink elephant flying overhead.

 

That individual have been proven as a liar, just like Tony B'Liar

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The same as pensioners with some estate worth cash having to sell up to pay for care.

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FFS there's a pink elephant flying overhead.

 

That individual have been proven as a liar, just like Tony B'Liar

 

 

Get out of it, as the man said he won't touch the benifit in this administration, can you show me the proof otherwise as you have now intimated. Proof please chum.

 

And i'm having difficulty with big cods comment that cameron should hang his head in shame, same thing really, is big cod reading from a different link than the one he had put up for us to read, proof please.

 

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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The same as pensioners with some estate worth cash having to sell up to pay for care.

 

 

Huh, i note the last admin, up the working class co, had 13 years to sort out social care, just what did they achive? :P

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Get out of it, as the man said he won't touch the benifit in this administration, can you show me the proof otherwise as you have now intimated. Proof please chum.

 

And i'm having difficulty with big cods comment that cameron should hang his head in shame, same thing really, is big cod reading from a different link than the one he had put up for us to read, proof please.

 

:P

 

Pensions, uni fee's benefits, all been widely reportd chum :P

 

GOOGLE SEARCH BENEFITS CUTS

 

INI FEES INCREASE

 

Is that enough facts for you mister :P

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"La conclusión es que los insultos sólo perjudican cuando vienen de alguien que respeto". e5006689.gif

“Vescere bracis meis”

 

 

 

 

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Huh, i note the last admin, up the working class co, had 13 years to sort out social care, just what did they achive? :P

 

Er made millios out of it, Tony B'Liar being the main culprit. And if you want facts, there's plenty og stuff on WIKI and GOOGLE chum :P

"La conclusión es que los insultos sólo perjudican cuando vienen de alguien que respeto". e5006689.gif

“Vescere bracis meis”

 

 

 

 

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Pensions, uni fee's benefits, all been widely reportd chum :P

 

GOOGLE SEARCH BENEFITS CUTS

 

INI FEES INCREASE

 

Is that enough facts for you mister :P

 

 

No, brown sorted the private pensions out. Tories sorted out hair dressing and golf course management degrees, quite right too.

 

It's about these pension freebies that were are talking about. :)

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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