Nice chaps these UKIP types

[captain cojones]

I've also often heard attempts to label Eurosceptics as racists, seems a fairly effective (if dishonourable) way of shutting down debate.

 

depends on individual incidents or comments as to whether a person can be called racist or not.

 

Just having a strongly held opinion on immigration is not reason to be labelled so.

 

I also hear the man described as "A pocket Nazi" today,...

[Phone]

Steve,

 

Curious, what do you think is the common definition of "Eurosceptics" - - - some eurosceptics seek a different form of European Union whilst some seek the withdrawal of their own country from the EU and yet others seek the complete dissolution of the EU.

 

I've not seen it used as a "racist" remark? I always thought it was a British word coined to keep the Euro currency out of the UK?

 

Phone

[captain cojones]

Steve,

 

Curious, what do you think is the common definition of "Eurosceptics" - - - some eurosceptics seek a different form of European Union whilst some seek the withdrawal of their own country from the EU and yet others seek the complete dissolution of the EU.

 

I've not seen it used as a "racist" remark? I always thought it was a British word coined to keep the Euro currency out of the UK?

 

Phone

 

Like you say Phone, different "grades" of Eurosceptics, it appears to cause more heated argument than any other subject in Britain.

 

Loved this bit of your post.....

 

"Thought it was a British word coined to keep the Euro currency out of the UK?"

 

I have never heard anybody in Continental Europe have a desire to have them in it! :lol:

[Steve Walker]

Phone,

 

I would describe a Eurosceptic as someone who is unhappy with the current state or future direction of "The European Project". That may be an unhappiness with the principle or the implementation or the consequences, or all three.

 

As to what the European Project is, that also depends who you ask - broadly, an increasing social, legal and economic convergence across a growing number of countries, which some enthusiasts would like to result eventually in a single federal European state.

 

Personally, I think it's essentially a way of building a political empire by using the transfer of wealth from existing members to bribe new members into ceding their sovereignty. I think the problem it mostly addresses is superpower envy amongst the European political elite, who feel a little light in the trouser department when they stand next to the heads of state of the US or China at the G8 urinals.

[Phone]

Steve,

 

I confess, I had to look up "UKIP".

 

I don't know squat about them.

 

Phone

[barry luxton]

Steve,

 

I confess, I had to look up "UKIP".

 

I don't know squat about them.

 

Phone

no probs, here's one from a while ago regarding euro sceptics,