interesting find

[chesters1]

my mrs used to collect stamps so tended to grab anything with stamps on if they were cheap at boot fairs .on sorting some out she found this intriguing envelope.

strange for a few reasons

note the envelope isnt addressed to a house in a road but an area ,either she was well known or the letter was hand delivered but then why the stamps?

now that surname IS famouse but not until decades later and its not her that famous as far as i know.going by the numbers 69 i presume it could be 1869 .

i know the famouse person in mind came from the area but was mrs oates famous for some other reason? and the later kin from a well known family of famouse people

now look at the seal was it the regent or perhaps a seal from a hotel or mens club?

unfortunately were not going to find why the contents have long gone but a pretty interesting find all the same

Edited March 4, 2013 by chesters1

[gozzer]

I'm sure it is connected to Captain Oates's family chesters, they lived in a big estate (Meanwoodside), that's now Meanwood Park. They would just need to put 'Meanwoodside' on a letter to any of the family.

A couple of links that might help.

 

http://www.northleedslifegroup.com/2012/03/20/meanwood-remembers-captain-lawrence-oates/

 

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-465860-column-at-south-west-end-of-meanwood-par

 

Sorry, can't help with the seal. But maybe this is of interest.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regent_Hotel

 

John.

[ayjay]

Meanwoodside was a large mansion owned by his grandfather, I doubt any further address was needed.

 

1869 is bang on for penny red stamps - they were in use from 1841-79

[ayjay]

It would be worth finding out more about the seal - if it is The Regent's it's likely worth a few bob.

 

Here's one from a predecessor - sold for £3000.00

 

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18938/lot/47/

[chesters1]

I'm sure it is connected to Captain Oates's family chesters, they lived in a big estate (Meanwoodside), that's now Meanwood Park. They would just need to put 'Meanwoodside' on a letter to any of the family.

A couple of links that might help.

 

http://www.northleedslifegroup.com/2012/03/20/meanwood-remembers-captain-lawrence-oates/

 

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-465860-column-at-south-west-end-of-meanwood-par

 

Sorry, can't help with the seal. But maybe this is of interest.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regent_Hotel

 

John.

Ah that explains the general address it was a house not a area.

Positive its oats as in the polar chaps family ,now to pin down the mrs and what she was up to at the time.

[chesters1]

It would be worth finding out more about the seal - if it is The Regent's it's likely worth a few bob.

 

Here's one from a predecessor - sold for £3000.00

 

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18938/lot/47/

Not the same one as that one its earlier but perhaps its the same as victorias regent but was it albert ,history lesson on the menu!

The seal could be from the regent hotel in leamington ,it was given the right to use the prince of wales feathers after a visit from him ,not pinned down the exact date this happened though

Edited March 4, 2013 by chesters1

[captain cojones]

Good luck with that Chesters...Be nice if it was worth good money.

[chesters1]

Cheers but being the unluckiest person on earth i doubt its worth anything ,if it were sent to captain oats in the 20th century it would be worth a little ,if the postmark was whitestar line considerably more

 

Blimey my brain must be dissolving ,i knew all this was familiar i have posted this before ,i wondered why i kept getting a sense of dejavue (sp?) ,i know the mrs memory is shot it seems mine is as well ,bugger

 

Anyway the crest isnt unfortunately randy old alberts personal.one the hotel was given the right to display it by another regent who went on to become george 4th so i presume it was used on stationary sent from the hotel as a norm.

Still theres no doubt over the person getting it mrs susan oats whose hubby laid out an american garden at her home but had died a few years before leaving her a widow.we can only speculate who sent it as i doubt any records survive of residents in the hotel on the particular day it was sent

Edited March 4, 2013 by chesters1