Wire stem stick floats.

[Tigger]

The one's I have are Steve Mahers wire stemmed stick floats, but mine are some of the older ones and they do have thin wire stems. These are on his web page at the moment but I don't know how thin they are in the stem, I would imagine they are thin though.....

 

http://www.thefloatshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=11&product_id=63

 

This is his shop for you to have a nosey at....

 

http://www.thefloatshop.com/index.php?route=common/home

 

The floats arn't exactly cheap though !

[lutra]

The one's I have are Steve Mahers wire stemmed stick floats, but mine are some of the older ones and they do have thin wire stems. These are on his web page at the moment but I don't know how thin they are in the stem, I would imagine they are thin though.....

 

http://www.thefloatshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=11&product_id=63

 

This is his shop for you to have a nosey at....

 

http://www.thefloatshop.com/index.php?route=common/home

 

The floats arn't exactly cheap though !

Them's not men's sticks, they got no shoulders.

[lutra]

To be a little more scientific than just looking at the floats, I pulled the wire stem out of that 10 number 4 stick and suck a cocktail stick in.

It now carry's 8bb and is still a little under shotted.

 

I now just need to convince myself that my two new 1.2g balsa and fine pitch pine sticks out fish my old wire one.

I think there will be a notable difference fishing for silvers as my rig will be half the weight.

[Tigger]

You've lost me Brian, I don't understand what your trying to do. If it's a super light set up then why not look at some of the pole floats?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-mf-bd-dippers-margin-pole-floats-/251808963800?pt=UK_BOI_Packing_Postal_Supplies_Labels_LE&hash=item3aa0fbdcd8

 

Check out this page of rizov floats, some of them look ok....

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060778.m570.l1311.R8.TR11.TRC1.A0.H1.Xpole+floats&_nkw=rizov+pole+floats&_sacat=0

 

there's hundreds of 'em to choose from on evilbay !

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060778.m570.l2632.R2.TR2.TRC1.A0.H2.Xpole+floats+river&_nkw=river+pole+floats&_sacat=1492

 

I can't see the point in going so light to be honest, you'll finnish up where the float is just pulled off line at the slightest pull when mending your line.

Edited January 27, 2015 by Tigger

[lutra]

You've lost me Brian, I don't understand what your trying to do. If it's a super light set up then why not look at some of the pole floats?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-mf-bd-dippers-margin-pole-floats-/251808963800?pt=UK_BOI_Packing_Postal_Supplies_Labels_LE&hash=item3aa0fbdcd8

 

Check out this page of rizov floats, some of them look ok....

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060778.m570.l1311.R8.TR11.TRC1.A0.H1.Xpole+floats&_nkw=rizov+pole+floats&_sacat=0

 

there's hundreds of 'em to choose from on evilbay !

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060778.m570.l2632.R2.TR2.TRC1.A0.H2.Xpole+floats+river&_nkw=river+pole+floats&_sacat=1492

 

I can't see the point in going so light to be honest, you'll finnish up where the float is just pulled off line at the slightest pull when mending your line.

I don't really think of a 3bb or 5bb stick as super light Ian, more medium to big.

 

Yes I would agree its hard to mend your line to a light stick float without moving it. I think the idea is more to fish them straight off the rod tip and stay in good contact so really no need to start mending line.

 

I was really just curious why they (wire stemmed sticks) have become so popular as given the size and weight of them, I don't find much use for them.

[Tigger]

I'm sure the fish wouldn't know the difference between a 1 grame float and a 5 gramme float (wire, wood or carbon stemmed) if it was shotted correctly, minnows pull a 5 grame bolo under easy enough. I know you wouldn't purposely target minnows with such a heavy float but it just shows how easy they're pulled under ! Don't forget the fish won't feel any weight as such as they're not fighting gravity. If they lift the bait the float will rise as soon as the bottom shot is lifted so they'll feel very little in that situation also.

I reckon if your fishing for shy biting fish the hook, line and bait are more important and if it makes you feel better a lighter float (within reason).

 

You''l have to let us know how your latest floats work, if they make any noticeable difference .

Edited January 27, 2015 by Tigger

[BobH]

Thanks for a really interesting thread, I have learnt a lot.

 

I tend to use Drennan Wire stem Stick floats, the biggest I can get hold off and adjust the shotting accordingly.

 

Bob

[lutra]

Thanks for a really interesting thread, I have learnt a lot.

 

I tend to use Drennan Wire stem Stick floats, the biggest I can get hold off and adjust the shotting accordingly.

 

Bob

I think a lot depends on what you are doing with them Bob. I've had many a chub when salmon fishing with a 20g pike float and they can give very positive sail away bites. I've caught and plenty roach and dace with big wire stemmed sticks, bolo's, avons and big wagglers. Its just that I find it can be helpful to lighten up as much possible in the dead of winter when things is hard and I'm happy for even a 2oz dace or what ever may come along.

 

I know tiddler catching isn't for some anglers like Tigger, they've told me so. May be I'm just a little different and don't need to be looking for lumps all the time and can be happy just catching a bag of bits.

[BobH]

Lutra,

 

I like tiddler catching, I was out yesterday afternoon doing that very thing, I had Roach, Perch, Chub, Ruffe, Gudgeon, Bleak and Dace from a side stream of the Lea !!

 

It's the first time in years that I have caught a Ruffe and I managed to catch two ?

 

Bob

[Steve Walker]

Ruffe are funny like that - they seem to be either entirely absent of plentiful, not often much inbetween.