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Steve who wrote the article I aren't sure but it should have .read where the scallopers have been working it was once alive with cod now there ain't any which is more or less 110% correct .

 

This has gone on long enough .

 

no it hasn't gone on long enough, what is missing is fact and evidence of scalloping operations crushing all these rocky reefs into pool tables. As Steven has intimated the scallop grounds are well known, what isn't is the assumption you make that the scallopers target the reefs, so where's the facts on that one? Yet another anecdotal assuming link you provide that gives no evidence to back up your claim of all this destruction. Instead of toeing TAT's line of insisting you want the fishery to yourself, why don't you advocate something like this as opposed to getting rid of some other commercial enterprise where local coastal communities rely on the incomes. Post up your evidence on the fishing news page if you are so sure.

 

Tell us what campaign you had a year or two ago with regards to another sector of the commercial industry you had a downer on because you claimed at the time it was destroying the cod fishing.

 

http://subwaycars.littlethings.com/subway-cars-ocean/?utm_source=LTcom&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=misc

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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This is a bit off topic, but reading Barrys comments reminded me of it.   I had a visit from a guy yesterday, just as I was going out. He handed me a leaflet, and I took it without looking and said

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So the RMT fish for scallops ?bastards! Got their noses into everything

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gone scalloping apparently, wot you like

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go for the ball not the player this time, counter this quote with some facts:

 

He insisted that the government’s move was not a response to Hugh’s Fish Fight, which he attacked for over-simplifying and over-dramatising the problem. The programme was deliberately trying to manipulate public opinion and was “beyond credibility”, he said.

“Scalloping only utilises a very small part of the seabed with vessels consistently fishing the same areas decade after decade. To imply that the scallop sector causes wide scale damage is both disingenuous and disproportionate.”

John Hermse, from the Scallop Association based in Elgin, accused opponents of employing “emotive dogma” to make “ludicrous claims” about the industry. “Scallop beds are more affected by the tides and the motion of the sea than the boats fishing them,” he said.

“Scallops are the ultimate fast food. They are easy to cook, delicious and nutritious and it is high time it was acknowledged and appreciated that they have the sustainability credentials to match.”

The industry body, Seafish, pointed out that scallop fishing supported 1,150 Scottish jobs. “It is important that we do not lose sight of the importance of the industry to Scotland’s economically fragile coastal communities,” said its chief executive, Dr Paul Williams.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Your an idiot Barry who hasnt got a clue the list is endless against scallop dredging and that world wide .

 

http://www.marineconnection.org/news/general/fears%20raised%20for%20dolphin%20habitats.htm

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http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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Steve who wrote the article I aren't sure but it should have .read where the scallopers have been working it was once alive with cod now there ain't any which is more or less 110% correct .

 

This has gone on long enough .

 

Now now Paul, put the dummy back in, these debates are always enlightening.....and as always google is your friend regarding who said what pretty much anywhere at any time, these are very bad times to try and mislead any forum :g:

 

I amusingly remember debates on the Whitby forum not too long ago regarding marine protection where in between the embarrassing nonsense celebration turned to despair when someone pointed out reality and it dawned on people that it could ultimately affect everyone, including anglers. Nothing has changed in that respect apart from a large part of the positive economic benefit argument has now been removed from the equation making any potential implementation much easier.

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Now now Paul, put the dummy back in, these debates are always enlightening.....and as always google is your friend regarding who said what pretty much anywhere at any time, these are very bad times to try and mislead any forum :g:

 

I amusingly remember debates on the Whitby forum not too long ago regarding marine protection where in between the embarrassing nonsense celebration turned to despair when someone pointed out reality and it dawned on people that it could ultimately affect everyone, including anglers. Nothing has changed in that respect apart from a large part of the positive economic benefit argument has now been removed from the equation making any potential implementation much easier.

 

Steve i dont need google to tell me what scallop dredgeing does i have seen it first hand the list is endless who comdem it this really getting boring now going round and round the Cheif fisheries officer here has banned the scallop boats out to 6 miles give him bell and tell he has made a mistake . :doh:

 

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http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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Steve i dont need google to tell me what scallop dredgeing does i have seen it first hand the list is endless who comdem it this really getting boring now going round and round the Cheif fisheries officer here has banned the scallop boats out to 6 miles give him bell and tell he has made a mistake .

 

paul.

 

Google is interesting Paul, it brings up years of your claims and concerns despite all of your protestations to the contrary.

 

I have no idea if it is a mistake or not, although history suggests that knee jerk reactions are rarely as effective as well thought out proactive actions, time will tell.

 

I am a long term kinda guy, short termism does little for me.

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MM i wonder what happened to the failed alcohol tested train driver ?? e5002267.gif

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Your an idiot Barry who hasnt got a clue the list is endless against scallop dredging and that world wide .

 

http://www.marineconnection.org/news/general/fears%20raised%20for%20dolphin%20habitats.htm

 

dear ohh dear, it gets worse, now we have a link indicating alleged scalloping damage showing a dying dolphin as well, you don't believe this as fact do you?

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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MM i wonder what happened to the failed alcohol tested train driver ?? e5002267.gif

gone scalloping apparently, wot you like

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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MM i wonder what happened to the failed alcohol tested train driver ?? e5002267.gif

 

He bought a scallop dredger and is now sustainably harvesting the seabed 6.00000001 miles off the Yorkshire Coast :boat:

 

Ps.....who is going to take paul for a walk on the wild side regarding the number of Cod that creels catch..... :shutup:

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