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[big_cod]

Steve the take under 10s are given changes regularly the boats who lease there quota is the ones who paid hard cash for it it wasn't given to them for nothing they say it's just not viable to catch cod anymore so it's Easyer to lease it .

As to watching your Potts the weather doesn't allow a small boat to be out there 24-7 when any boat is challenged about towing gear away they just deny it even though they are the only boats working in the area the now 6 mile limit gives a lot of lads some breathing space .

Paul

Edited February 27, 2015 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

Struggling with this now.

 

These potting guys who catch tons of cod in their pots discard it as it's not worth landing and have leased out the quota, back to the po's, no mmo forms to fill in on that one, least I can't find any..

 

Yet the local inshore commercials go scalloping out to 6 mile now because they have no quota.

 

Then there's these small potting boats don't go out because of the bad weather, yet there's thousands upon thousands of strings out there.

 

So much so, you can walk on them.

 

However, the ground is like a pool table as the scallopers have crushed it all. No ground means, no cod, crabs or lobster, surly.

 

Sounds just like Monty pythons.

 

I must be stupid because I just don't 'get it'.

[stevieg]

Steve the quota given to under 10s changes regularly the boats who lease three quota is the ones who paid hard cash for it it wasn't given to then for nothing they say it's just not viable to catch cod anymore so it's Easyer to lease it .

 

As to watching your Potts the weather doesn't allow a small boat to be out there 24-7 when any boat is challenged about towing gear away they just deny it even though they are the only boats working in the area the now 6 mile limit gives a lot of lads some breathing space .

 

Paul

 

Paul, quota is not "given" to under 10s, they fish from a central pool administered by the MMO, it is a completely different set up to sectoral over 10s where the POs administer the quotas and they can be bought, sold, and traded.

 

Are you saying that these potters are also quota barons, skinning alive those who are actually catching the fish by forcing them to pay up to £1800 per tonne to lease the potters cod quota?

 

If small scallop boats are out actually working, why should potters not also be out dodging beside their gear keeping an eye on what's what at the same time, what is the difference? Scallopers could only work 5 aside inside 6 miles at the time so they are clearly pretty small vessels we are talking about.....or was your potter mate far too busy spending more time with his quota baron gains to really care enough about his gear?

 

Ps....what about all these ""fresh Whitby Cod", you seem to have side stepped that one, where are they coming from given that official landing figures would barely keep a chip shop going for a night?

[big_cod]

Struggling with this now.

 

These potting guys who catch tons of cod in their pots discard it as it's not worth landing and have leased out the quota, back to the po's, no mmo forms to fill in on that one, least I can't find any..

 

Yet the local inshore commercials go scalloping out to 6 mile now because they have no quota.

 

Then there's these small potting boats don't go out because of the bad weather, yet there's thousands upon thousands of strings out there.

 

So much so, you can walk on them.

 

However, the ground is like a pool table as the scallopers have crushed it all. No ground means, no cod, crabs or lobster, surly.

 

Sounds just like Monty pythons.

 

I must be stupid because I just don't 'get it'.

 

You are how ever thought about taking up golf .

 

Paulr

Edited February 25, 2015 by big_cod

[big_cod]

Not many of those in the river here ,plenty of crayfish though but to much hard work to make it worth eating them

If i cant buy stuff in iceland or carry it in my rucksack its beyond us ,getting a bus to whitby for a crab would not be financially sustainable LOL

 

Chesters I often get my customers crabs off the potting lads to take home when you look at what you pay for crab they are getting a bargain when you get around 10 for £8 a bit value than getting them from the supmarket .

 

 

 

Paul

[big_cod]

 

Paul, quota is not "given" to under 10s, they fish from a central pool administered by the MMO, it is a completely different set up to sectoral over 10s where the POs administer the quotas and they can be bought, sold, and traded.

 

Are you saying that these potters are also quota barons, skinning alive those who are actually catching the fish by forcing them to pay up to £1800 per tonne to lease the potters cod quota?

 

If small scallop boats are out actually working, why should potters not also be out dodging beside their gear keeping an eye on what's what at the same time, what is the difference? Scallopers could only work 5 aside inside 6 miles at the time so they are clearly pretty small vessels we are talking about.....or was your potter mate far too busy spending more time with his quota baron gains to really care enough about his gear?

 

Ps....what about all these ""fresh Whitby Cod", you seem to have side stepped that one, where are they coming from given that official landing figures would barely keep a chip shop going for a night?

I didn't think you were that nieve if you don't jknow where 99% of the fish eaten in this country in fish shops restaurants wet fish shops is caught I ain't going to tell you steve there was one whitefish trawler working last week off whitby he had around 70 boxes of green for the week and 30 boxes of whiting .

 

As for quotas one particular fisherman or buisnesman bought literally millions of pounds worth of cod quota which his boats use off Norway he advised many small fishermen to do the same many years ago some did some didnt,

thoses who didt just work out of the pot till its all caught correct me if i am wrong steve.

 

 

Paul

Edited February 27, 2015 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

According to you b c first of all there ain't any cod off Whitby because the ground has been flattened by these itinerant scallopers, your last post contradicts yourself because just one trawler working off Whitby has landed cod. Not landed at Whitby though. He must be working also out of six mile as he wouldn't have quota to fish inside, again according to you. BTW if these pots taken by the mystical scallopers, they can only be the local scallopers who would dare to step inside of 3 mile, at the time. As those itinerant ones, the nomad scallopers as been claimed, cannot fish inside of 6 mile in any event. Too many dredges, remember, no million pound boat would want to be so far off course fishing the rocks for one or two scallops, not viable.

 

Nice to see a working relationship between a charter skipper and a fishmonger, no problem with that, however, it's a bit rich that you condemn the likes of Steven and his local community and deny them carrying out their business and livelihood based on no evidence what so ever or assuming assumptions, Just like TAT. The question remains un-answered then, you have no facts or links to back up your claim. Do you still have a fish?

 

We get scallops, crabs off the boats down south after a days fishing, supurb bit of fresh grub to take home. Pay the skipper some cash and hey presto the stuff appears. You really can't buy the stuff in supermarkets and that is a shame.

[Phone]

All,

 

This is going to last til we get to a month with no "R's" - ain't it?

 

Phone

[chesters1]

All,

 

This is going to last til we get to a month with no "R's" - ain't it?

 

Phone

It may do

[stevieg]

I didn't think you were that nieve if you don't jknow where 99% of the fish eaten in this country in fish shops restaurants wet fish shops is caught I ain't going to tell you steve there was one whitefish trawler working last week off whitby he had around 70 boxes of green for the week and 30 boxes of whiting .

 

As for quotas one particular fisherman or buisnesman bought literally million of pound worth of cod quota which his boats use off Norway he advised many small fishermen to do the same many years ago .

 

 

Paul

 

Heartening to hear that there are still cod on the ground paul, confusing but heartening none the less.

 

I am well aware where fish comes from, but if you advertise something as "fresh Whitby cod" then it pretty much has to be in that ball park. I was intrigued where it came from as (official) Whitby Cod landings are miniscule, official fish landings are fully quantified and freely available month by month, method by method, port by port, however I do understand your evasiveness on this one, panic not.

 

I understand very well how quota works, for example quota for off Whitby (4b) would be completely useless for vessels working off Norway (Norwegian Waters), fish quota is ICES area specific, you can't just use it anywhere.

 

What is disturbing is that these poor "persecuted" under 10s are making huge profits from the scurge of the fishing industry, quota trading. Your trawler owner above has little in common as he is using his bought in quota to keep his own boats afloat wheras the other example of the under 10s you cite is pure profiteering at the expense of working fishermen, something that quota strapped under 10s are eternally unhappy about, which is interesting and possibly something that needs highlighted as uber-hypocrisy is not a nice thing.