What A plonker What Next A Desperate Man.

[big_cod]

Chesters I sometimes worry about you I went to comprehensive school the classss I were in were kids who Beleive me have done very well indeed since leaving school no holds up classes no dunces not many thickies as you call them just because you failed the 11 plus didn't mean you were a thick **** .

Edited April 19, 2015 by big_cod

[n4lly]

I don't care for celebrity. I just vote blue knowing i will be left alone to get on working day after day, paying my fair share of tax

and have the liberty to do and go as i please.

 

Cameron, damned if he does damned if he don't, never mind eh ?

[chesters1]

Chesters I sometimes worry about you I went to comprehensive school the classss I were in were kids who Beleive me have done very well indeed since leaving school no holds up classes no dunces not many thickies as you call them just because you failed the 11 plus didn't mean you were a thick **** .

Luckily i only went to a comprehensive for a year mine was an old fashioned school without the level playing field "modern" thinking crap and the only person i ever held back was myself

The trouble makers were put down to the place they should be (once the cane didnt work)not stopping everyone else doing their work and bettering themselves

I presume modern school years are sub divided by ability ,grammar schools are just those with the ability to go a level or two higher

Now what was that about branson ? Or are the blinkers being worn again

Edited April 19, 2015 by chesters1

[Emma two]

I havn't been here for a while, logged in to catch up and foynd myself wholeheartedly agreeing with Chesters regarding education. I was written off by the schools system after failing the 11+, condemmed to an uninspiring and second class education at a secondary modern school. I hated it with a passion (so much for school days being the happiest of one's life). In my 40s I did a part time college course to get my A Levels, which I did, 4 A's, from that managed to go to (a proper 'red brick') university full time for 3 years, graduated with a first class honours degree and had my final dissertation published in a journal. So much for the system of a level playing field back in my school days. Some of us were held back, we came from the 'wrong' social class, no middle class kids were sent from primary to the grammar school, and only a token few of us working class ones went there. (My Father was a brick layer and professional boxer).

 

The inverted snobbery, which we see everywhere, even in here sometimes, is understated. In the army we had ex public and grammar school officers, who would often be disregarded by the non commisioned soldiers as clueless 'hooray Henry's, well some were, but certainly not all, I wouldn't discriminate against someone simply because they were lucky enough to have had a good education.

[Steve Walker]

Both grammar schools and adult education have historically been drivers of social mobility. They're both a matter of presenting the right learning opportunities to people when they are in the right place personally to benefit from it. The perception that children are being divided into sheep and goats is a reflection of the snobbery about how someone makes a living - if we saw it as having different kinds of schools for children with different educational needs it wouldn't be controversial.

 

It's ironic that much of the generation of politicians which pulled up the ladder on grammar schools was itself educated that way.