Best knot for eyed hook - dexterity problems.

[Steve Walker]

I never found hook tyers easier than doing it by hand, but then I had already been tying them by hand for a long time.

[kirisute]

Hook tyers seem to be, to me, using a computer, when a pen and paper would easier and quicker.

Each to their own obviously but I've certainly never seen one that's as easy or quick as doing it myself, by hand! But I don't use spade end hooks; which is probably where 90% of tyers are used?

Edited May 17, 2015 by kirisute

[Andy_1984]

Reason i said about the mathcman is because doing knotless knot by hand you need to work harder with your hands. Holding the hook wraping the line keeping tension and trying to keep coils together, quite challenging if you have dexterity problems. With matchman you just need to keep tension on the tag end while twisting the tyer.

[barry luxton]

improved clinch, dead easy to tie even in the dark and very strong, most simple.

Edited May 17, 2015 by barry luxton

[wotnobivvy]

With the Matchman I use my knees to keep the tension whilst tying the knot. Used it for over 20 years and never had a knot problem

[philocalist]

Thanks for all the advice / pointers so far AND the very kind offer (by Kirisute) to tie them up for me if need be ... I may yet take advantage of that kind offer!

 

So - tonight is likely to be play-time, but one thing occurs to me, and that is that all knots are not created equal, i.e. given that the knot is correctly tied, they vary in strength (which I've usually seen expressed as a percentage) - does anyone perhaps have a link for a site that will give me such comparisons? - been Googling for a while but not really able to find anything (yet).

 

That said, the two most likely candidates are currently the two offered by Kirisute, with the first having an additional tuck through to produce what people are calling an Improved Clinch, and the second being named variously as the Uni knot and the Grinner ... the Knotless knot and Palomar have both had to be discounted for this specific project as the hooklengths I'm using are impossible to pass twice through the eye of the intended hooks! ... smallest are 18's onto 0.18mm / 5.8lb BS, and the eyes on the 16's are not much bigger.

[barry luxton]

no strength details but this might help in it's simplicity and ease of tying. Never known it to fail.

 

http://www.animatedknots.com/improvedclinch/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

[kirisute]

I don't know of any hook knot strength tests....

Surprised there isn't any somewhere.

Seriously; if you want some tied, then I'm sure we can sort something out.

A grinner tends to give a softer knot

A clinch knot gives a slightly stiffer section just behind the hook...setting the hook straighter to the line

I've honestly never used an improved clinch.

 

 

I'll practice them just for you! Lol

Edited May 17, 2015 by kirisute

[Phone]

philo,

 

Kiri, there are tons and tonnes of such tests.

 

The "winner" for knot breaking strength is almost always the San Diego jam (Reverse Clinch) This high test knot (95% when tied properly) can be used on many line sizes, with the number of turns decreasing as the line test increases. Understand I have made somewhat of a generalization but this knot is always in the top three and usually at the top.

 

Phone

[Steve Walker]

Do you tie your hooks on with a granny knot? No? Well then, you know that all knots are not equal!