melpen 0 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Info needed, Cam belt has gone on my wifes car, which is a Ford Fiesta Classic Diesel 1996 (N reg) Do you think this is a garage job? or A repair someone can do following the haynes manual, if I can find one... PS:- Would the failure of the cam belt have caused other damage, ie: valves going through pistons....etc your guidance would be much appreciated... MEL. If you can lie on the floor without holding on, then you’re not drunk. I Can Only Please One Person A Day, Today Isn't Your Day, Tomorrow Isn't Looking Good Either. Link to post Share on other sites
John S 323 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 It's very possible that valves or pistons have been damaged - not a certainty though. Did you or your wife notice a loud banging sound when the belt broke or did the engine just stop suddenly? John SQuanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow. Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree. Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow. Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine. Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew. Link to post Share on other sites
jeepster 1 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Would help to know in what circumstances the belt broke, I had one go once when I was reversing slowly off the drive, I was going so slow that there was no damage at all, That's unusual though. Give us more info and we can tell you how pessimistic to be! Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Carragher 15 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 You need to find out if its an interference engine or not If it is then in all probability there will be a lot of damage, I'd be surprised if its a non interference engine as I seem to remember this one being a high revving engine with short strokes and higher compression Link to post Share on other sites
Davy Holt 1 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hiya, I'm pretty sure you have the same engine I'm using on my boat, the 1800 cc one. I snapped a timing belt a couple of years ago, the engine was only running at tick over but still managed to snap the cam shaft into three bits Davy "Skate Anglers Have Bigger Tackle" Link to post Share on other sites
melpen 0 Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 many thanks for your replies, it is an 1800cc diesel, When it happened, she was just pulling away from a junction, she heard no unusual noises, car just stopped, but she tried to re-start it, now the engine will not even turn over on the ignition. can I tell if its an interference engine or not by looking in the engine compartment? If you can lie on the floor without holding on, then you’re not drunk. I Can Only Please One Person A Day, Today Isn't Your Day, Tomorrow Isn't Looking Good Either. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Carragher 15 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Sounds like an interference engine, when the timing is out the valves will hit the pistons ( interference) From what you've described it seems as if the pistons have clouted the valves and either embedded themselves in the crown of the piston or the con rods have bent It will be cheaper to get hold of another engine from a breakers yard rather than repair it Link to post Share on other sites
melpen 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Many thanks for all your replies. the engine is well and truly stuffed...... MEL If you can lie on the floor without holding on, then you’re not drunk. I Can Only Please One Person A Day, Today Isn't Your Day, Tomorrow Isn't Looking Good Either. Link to post Share on other sites
John S 323 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sorry to hear that melpen. If you intend to keep the car, you can (as has already been pointed out) try to get one from a breakers (but then you don't know what condition the engine was in before the car was scrapped) or you could get a reconditioned engine or even a short-block. John SQuanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow. Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree. Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow. Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine. Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew. Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1498 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 the first thing i did was change the belt in my volvo ,according to the lable it was done at 108 thou its got 268 thou on the clock now Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
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