Seven Myths about Incapacity Benefit

[yoxer]

"The skills that had been taught and learned in the manufacturing industries, went to the wall. Workers who had skills and pride in their work, were forced to take low paid, unskilled, repetitive jobs, with no future and very little incentive other than paying the bills."

 

Manufacturing went to the wall because the could not compete in the global market . The workforce had outpriced itself , no doubt in order to pay the crippling taxes imposed on them and a life style which waasnt capable of support. The crippling taxes that are supporting this welfare dependent country

[yoxer]

and tax credits , just what piece of pathetic nonsense is that all about eh

[barry luxton]

I've heard people say that Thatcher, tamed the unions, but Scargill and co were not the unions, they were just the mouth pieces, who lived lifestyles that were far removed from the 'ordinary' members.

It was the workers, the ordinary people that were 'tamed', (though broken would be a better term).

Is it so hard to see how this would effect large sections of the work force, and the 'knock on' effect on their families?

 

I saw first hand the dirt, illnesess, hardship, deprivation not just in the south wales mines but around the pits as well, that was before scargill started playing games, Fortunatly that period has gone, that is why i agreed with Rabitts post. I also saw the power of the unions and did not like what i saw. The majority of the subsidised industries were eventually 'ruined' and it wasn't just the power of the government of the day that caused it. To that end we should be more fit and healthy, are we.

[gozzer]

Manufacturing went to the wall because the could not compete in the global market . The workforce had outpriced itself , no doubt in order to pay the crippling taxes imposed on them and a life style which waasnt capable of support. The crippling taxes that are supporting this welfare dependent country

 

If you believe that was the main reason, then you are even more gullible than your posts suggest.

The manufacturing base of this country, posed a threat to the then government. This threat was quashed, and the money that was earned from North Sea oil and gas was used to make sure that the threat never surfaced again. So called 'Golden handshakes' handed out in installments, but no jobs. It could have been used to keep the wheels of industry turning, by rebuilding the infrastructure of this country, and upgrading the ancient machinery, that hampered output. But what was wanted, was a toothless, sterile workforce, that was easy to manipulate, this they got.

A jobs market that consists mainly of relatively unskilled vacancies, is much easier to control, you don't need apprentices to learn the job, just a 6 weeks course and 'bingo', another one waiting in line to fill the job if you don't tow the 'company line'. Don't question, don't think for yourself, just do as your told, or else!

 

John.

Edited February 17, 2008 by gozzer

[yoxer]

"The manufacturing base of this country, posed a threat to the than government.2

 

Really ?? and just what threat have you imagined that to be ?

[kleinboet]

Yoxer, In your rabid desire to be controversial, you have gone COMPLETELY off topic!

What has this bilge got to do with IB today?

I would be interested to know about all these "doddles" you say you know to get full time IB!

[rob.imk2]

"The manufacturing base of this country, posed a threat to the than government.2

 

Really ?? and just what threat have you imagined that to be ?

the threat to that governments stability it was crapping itself in the end the people chose to elect a new government for better or for worse

Edited February 17, 2008 by rob.imk2

[yoxer]

"the threat to that governments stability it was crapping itself in the end the people chose to elect a new government for better or for worse "

 

ahhhhhh that threat . So the government thought ...oh hold on we had better destroy the countries manufacturing base and then people will like us and vote us back into office. Yes, its all starting to make sense now isnt it , it had feck all to do with manufactures not being able to compete in a global economy after all.

[kleinboet]

[gozzer]

"The manufacturing base of this country, posed a threat to the than government.2

 

Really ?? and just what threat have you imagined that to be ?

 

Maybe I should have said, the workers in those industries posed the threat, sorry.

You forgotten about the Heath Government? Thatcher was making sure that it couldn't happen again.

 

Kleinboet, it is only partially off topic, in that yoxer was asking why we thought that so many Idle B*****ds (his definition of IB), were claiming today.

 

His gullibility shows in his acceptance of media hype, his belief that clinical depression is just being 'fed up', and that anyone can claim IB without having medical proof, oh and his fondness for continually using stereo-typical people and situations to try and make a point.

 

John.