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Yup Peter, you may have to. :oops:

 

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" My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!" - Harry Truman, 33rd US President

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When a non-naive person capable of decent writing posts something that is both trite & naive, you might wish to consider motive.

 

"Wind up" comes to mind as more likely than some sort of strange mental lapse.

 

Wind up. trite naive? No ,in that I only stated what can be done as opposed to the hanging lobby who are calling for something that we dont have within our legal system...capitol punishment. The role of prison is to punish and hopefully reform the offenders, so my comments are hardly trite and naive, apply those comments to those who are asking for a hanging.

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I hope that these young men will turn around their lives and become good citizens when they come out.

I hope so.

 

Personally, I hope they get serially gang raped and choose to do to themselves what society no longer has the guts to do.

Preferably very early in their sentence, so we don't have to fork out so much money on them.

The chances of them ever becoming "good citizens" are nil.

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I think if life sentences are going to be as short as 12 years the very least we could do is sterilise the scumbags as well.

 

Castration would be more effective.......

 

One question............ why not just announce the number of years???????????? why does our out-dated juditial system INSIST on using the term "LIFE" ?????? serving life to me means you should leave prison in a coffin (not a new designer suit and Porsche supplied FOC to help you to adapt into society!!!!!). how you get into the coffin is the only debate, should it be long term and natural causes or brought forward by design !!!

One good reason to do something is better than a thousand bad excuses not to.

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my comments are hardly trite and naive, apply those comments to those who are asking for a hanging.

 

You could apply all sorts of comments (such as vindictive, sadistic, etc etc) to those asking for a hanging, but "trite" and "naive" seem least appropriate.

 

The main argument in favour of hanging felons is not that it might assuage the feelings of tabloid readers, but that the re-offending rate after hanging is zero. I would class that as cold logic rather than naivete.

 

 

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"Nothing matters very much, few things matter at all" - Plato

...only things like fresh bait and cold beer...

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Castration would be more effective.......

 

One question............ why not just announce the number of years???????????? why does our out-dated juditial system INSIST on using the term "LIFE" ?????? serving life to me means you should leave prison in a coffin (not a new designer suit and Porsche supplied FOC to help you to adapt into society!!!!!). how you get into the coffin is the only debate, should it be long term and natural causes or brought forward by design !!!

 

Designer suits and Porches? Thats really a waste of public money, where did you get that info from?

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I hope that these young men will turn around their lives and become good citizens when they come out.

I hope so.

 

Would you honestly say that if it was one of your kids, mum, dad that was put in the box early because of these citizens. As and when they do come out on licence and do it again, what would you say to that.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Would you honestly say that if it was one of your kids, mum, dad that was put in the box early because of these citizens. As and when they do come out on licence and do it again, what would you say to that.

 

I would say that you manufactured a scenario that would not involve a reasonable and level headed response. Put it another way no one is tried by the victims families are they? Sorry Barry that one is an old chestnut and is a poor example to make. And yes I would feel differently if my family was put in the box early I am merely HUMAN not really a RABBIT!! :uhuh:

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I would say that you manufactured a scenario that would not involve a reasonable and level headed response. Put it another way no one is tried by the victims families are they? Sorry Barry that one is an old chestnut and is a poor example to make. And yes I would feel differently if my family was put in the box early I am merely HUMAN not really a RABBIT!! :uhuh:

 

The reason that i 'manufactured' that scenario was purly to highlight the inadequet punishment handed out. From a personal point of view, a life sentance should have a minimum tariff of twenty years, that should go someway in balancing the dreadfull inexcusable act carried out. The sentence should be in two parts, one for the actuall punishment to fit the crime and secondly to act as a deterant to others as the lightweight way of dealing with the offenders at present certainly does not deter others from committing such crimes. Poor example, no different to you stating that you hope that the will become good citizens, you don't really mean that do you, why, what difference would that make to you and i. They either lead their lives as the majority do or lock em up. Before they eventually do come out they would also need assessing by level headed people, not by anyone who feels sympathetic to their plight but by someone who could assess if they are still a danger. Even today what is in place is still not enough as offenders are released and do it again, any doubt, keep em locked up. Society is more important than scrotes.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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When a non-naive person capable of decent writing posts something that is both trite & naive, you might wish to consider motive.

 

"Wind up" comes to mind as more likely than some sort of strange mental lapse.

 

Maybe you could consider the possibility that he just has a different opinion to you!?

 

I often disagree with rabbit, but on this issue I'm with him wholeheartedly. The USA has the death penalty but has a higher murder rate than the UK. Other countries with high murder rates also have far worse punishments than the UK does, yet STILL people bang on the string up drum like it will actually make a difference!

 

Bluezulu......if you could do as you suggest and not be tormented night after by what you'd done, they in my book it would make you little better than them. The fact we DO NOT act in such a manner is what sets us apart from them.

 

Bottom line is this, these scum bags WILL come back into society, thats a fact regardless of how we may feel about it. So the question is this, would you rather they come out even MORE angry and nasty than when they went in, or would you prefer we attempted to rehabilitate them so they can become productive members of society on their release?

 

Remember, if you vote for option 1 and they kill again, that blood is on your hands too.

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