A Draft Marine Bill

[Marine Bill]

http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/consult/...tmarinebill.pdf

 

The future............ plenty in there to go on I am sure, at 686 pages it might take a while to download let alone digest

[Leon Roskilly]

See also

 

http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Po...arine_Bill.html

[Ryford]

3.92 and 3.105 could prove interesting

[barry luxton]

http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/consult/...tmarinebill.pdf

 

The future............ plenty in there to go on I am sure, at 686 pages it might take a while to download let alone digest

 

Just wondering how much more of this dirge we gotta consider before we go fishing without them on our backs, Haven't even had time to get over the rsa consultation yet and this lot is thrown at us.

Defra are certainly making a massive industry out of this uk paperwork fishing ltd.

[steve good]

Just wondering how much more of this dirge we gotta consider before we go fishing without them on our backs, Haven't even had time to get over the rsa consultation yet and this lot is thrown at us.

Defra are certainly making a massive industry out of this uk paperwork fishing ltd.

 

Hi Barry

 

Defra have the greens on their back they got to do what they say Goverment earn over £100,000,000 from aggregate dredging,

the greens will say nothing about that if defra do what the greens say thats what this is all about

 

anglers and commercials are in the same boat except anglers are in the green camp.

 

We, anglers and commercials are going to be eaten by the greens.

 

Reasoning, goverment signed the international UN agreement on bio and geo bio-diversity and the EU habitat laws

 

Greens got goverment over the barrel

 

steve

[H.A.]

..... anglers are in the green camp.

 

Greens got goverment over the barrel

 

Who are these all powerful 'mysterons'?

 

[glennk]

Anglers are in the green camp allright.

 

With angling/green friends like this one who needs enemies.

 

http://www.wwf.org.uk/marineact/fairshare.asp

 

"SOMETHING MUST BE DONE" says SACN's Dave Morton

 

Will Dave Morton and the SACN be fighting for full compensation including future loss of livelihood for the charter skippers that will be put out of business ?

[H.A.]

Will Dave Morton and the SACN be fighting for full compensation including future loss of livelihood for the charter skippers that will be put out of business ?

- Glenn

 

I'm not sure what the link is here, Glenn?

 

Are you saying that the highly protected marine parks will be designated especially where charter boats operate?

I would have thought this would be exactly what the quite stringent and thorough secondary consultation processes laid down will be all about?

 

I would have thought RSAs can only benefit from access to some/most of these inshore areas where commercial trawling/dredging will be prohibited?

 

The emphasis seemed to be on 'dangerous and damaging' practices on sensitive areas and nursery areas. Unless a direct link between RSA activity and 'damaging' activities is made, then it looks as if this would be beneficial to anglers, even if the cost is what other properly developed and managed sportfishing regions have had for years, in the form of bag-limits.

 

What is certain is that some actions need to be taken against activities which most certainly are damaging to the habitats and stocks therein.

 

[glennk]

Not about marine parks HA, although no doubt that will be another problem. This is SACN's contribution to a propaganda video about the state of our seas. In the video you see an expert north east boat angler (not) demanding that something must be done. The video portrays a barren sea off the north east coast with nothing but "tiny tiny" fish.

 

Obviously this isn't the case I have many many pictures of big fish caught off our coast and lots of them.

 

What harm done you might say, its only a video. However when you do a little analysis of the page you find out :

 

123 .edu websites link here. (Colleges and universities)

 

37 .gov websites link here. (Government websites)

 

and a google page rank of 5 which is higher than the busiest angling forums.

 

Then you can start to see just how much damage a propaganda video like this can do when you get anglers on their saying something must be done, and government bodies watching that and then linking to it from their websites.

 

The next thing that must be done is compensation for our local charter fleet.

[wurzel]

- Glenn

 

I'm not sure what the link is here, Glenn?

 

Are you saying that the highly protected marine parks will be designated especially where charter boats operate?

I would have thought this would be exactly what the quite stringent and thorough secondary consultation processes laid down will be all about?

 

I would have thought RSAs can only benefit from access to some/most of these inshore areas where commercial trawling/dredging will be prohibited?

 

The emphasis seemed to be on 'dangerous and damaging' practices on sensitive areas and nursery areas. Unless a direct link between RSA activity and 'damaging' activities is made, then it looks as if this would be beneficial to anglers, even if the cost is what other properly developed and managed sportfishing regions have had for years, in the form of bag-limits.

 

What is certain is that some actions need to be taken against activities which most certainly are damaging to the habitats and stocks therein.

 

 

It's the bag limits that the Whitby charter fleet are worried about, it will alter the whole perspective of not only the charter fleet but all angling along the southern North sea coast.

 

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What is certain is that some actions need to be taken against activities which most certainly are damaging to the habitats and stocks therein.

 

With stocks already steadily increasing you have no proof of that, especially in the Whitby area.