Well done Reg and the boys of the AT.

[Ronessex]

Here we go...The first of many.

 

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[barry luxton]

Reg the hero, promotes all restrictions, friend of the rsa and the charter skippers. A T's top man. Speak to the balanced sea guys and they will see you right, yer right.

 

Forgot to tell us this petition that he promoted and closed the topic when the real rsa got going, was to achieve diddly squatt apart from rubbing guys up the wrong way. And it still hasn't been handed over yet. For two main reasons apart from no evidence and ignoring the local rsa who stated that the bream fishing this year is good, one, the trawlers the petition where trying to stop, don't exist anyway and can't trawl through the area in question in any event. boom, boom.

 

Second, the by-laws are going to be reviewed by the new sfc's in any event, so the current ones will certainly not be looking to change, as comfirmed by the local sfc.

 

 

Think he should listen to brother Steve a bit more and don't accept the pat on the head from uncle mike as the be all and end all.

Edited August 31, 2010 by barry luxton

[Ronessex]

Reg the hero, promotes all restrictions, friend of the rsa and the charter skippers. A T's top man. Speak to the balanced sea guys and they will see you right, yer right.

 

Forgot to tell us this petition that he promoted and closed the topic when the real rsa got going, was to achieve diddly squatt apart from rubbing guys up the wrong way. And it still hasn't been handed over yet. For two main reasons apart from no evidence and ignoring the local rsa who stated that the bream fishing this year is good, one, the trawlers the petition where trying to stop, don't exist anyway and can't trawl through the area in question in any event. boom, boom.

 

Second, the by-laws are going to be reviewed by the new sfc's in any event, so the current ones will certainly not be looking to change, as comfirmed by the local sfc.

 

 

Think he should listen to brother Steve a bit more and don't accept the pat on the head from uncle mike as the be all and end all.

 

He very obviously bloody well knew just what had been agreed when he stated that should Kingsmere be closed down,Charter boats and anglers would diversify.....Another done deal behind the closed doors of the AT and there cosy meetings with Balanced Seas.

[Steve Coppolo]

Yet another almighty cock up to add to the growing list. It is becoming the trend for anglers to be the whipping boys in all these schemes, which is hardly surprising when you consider that certain individuals are constantly presenting us as the path of least resistance.

 

These individuals are a lost cause. They will never learn from their mistakes, because they are far too arrogant to admit making them. What I want to know is, how long will those making decisions continue to act on the word of those who falsely claim to speak for all anglers? Until the money runs out, I expect.

Edited August 31, 2010 by Steve Coppolo

[barry luxton]

This is Reg's latest post, i had to move it here as it will be classed as a personal attack if i comment. He's now on rock watch. Concerned that the trawlers are towing the wrecks away, (last sentance) and middle para, confirms that trawlers can't tow through kingmere, yet wants it policed. Personally i think he's bonkers. Love Wurzel to have a go at this. Comment on the cost of the cheap trawling gear that reg thinks is disposable perhaps.

 

quote Reg.

 

Two years ago the kingmere was hit by trawlers and caused damage to the rock formations, on a separate occasion trawlers hit the nearby Worthing Lumps causing massive damage if we are to believe the outcry at the time. Both incidents outraged the SSFC and I believe divers were sent down to inspect the damage caused on both sites with a view to prosecutions, it would be good to see if the SSFC managed to fine those responsible. I think it was last year when there was literally a punch up at sea between local commercials and a Welsh trawler who came over to Sussex and ripped up the inshore mussel beds, if I remember the police were called in to stop the fighting. So Sherbert, it doesn't matter what the seabed habitat is made off, if the areas are not policed some will take the risk because there is so much profit to make, obviously more than the cost of new trawling gear. How about the wreck sites in Sussex, many have discarded commercial trawl nets trapped alongside causing potential risks to local divers, they are real fish killers for sure.

Edited September 1, 2010 by barry luxton

[Worms]

Here we go...The first of many.

 

http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/show...ad.php?t=286553

What's the MCS designation? I haven't come across that one.

[Bob Shotter]

Have just asked Reg if there is any news of the damage to which he refers appearing in the CFOs quarterly report to the SSFC also asked him who he was representing at a meting of Balanced Sea

[wurzel]

Yet another almighty cock up to add to the growing list. It is becoming the trend for anglers to be the whipping boys in all these schemes, which is hardly surprising when you consider that certain individuals are constantly presenting us as the path of least resistance.

 

These individuals are a lost cause. They will never learn from their mistakes, because they are far too arrogant to admit making them. What I want to know is, how long will those making decisions continue to act on the word of those who falsely claim to speak for all anglers? Until the money runs out, I expect.

 

Hello Steve

 

These individuals are not a lost cause but champions to those within the domain and inner circles that they inhabit and don't recognize their actions as mistakes.

With influence and backing from bodies like the WWF money is not likely to run out.

They use the well oiled propaganda machine of depleted fish stocks, destroyed biodiversity and all the gloom and doom nothing but jelly fish will be left scenarios to build a wall to hide behind and continue their self appointed self righteous agendas, that wall is impenetrable and as Wayne found out any body with even slightly more moderate views are soon thrown back over the wall.

What has happened at the Kingsmere site is just the start and will be repeated many times around the coast of the Uk in the near future .

[Worms]

What's the MCS designation? I haven't come across that one.

A typo....should have read MCZ which is not an NTZ.

 

Don't forget, MCZs could benefit charter boats and small local commercials by allowing such activities but preventing larger vessels from fishing the area.

 

Now is when the pressure from charter skippers and clubs needs to go in to get across the socio-economic importance to the local area.........plus of course the obvious one that angling doesn't damage the area.

[barry luxton]

Don't forget, MCZs could benefit charter boats and small local commercials by allowing such activities but preventing larger vessels from fishing the area.

 

Now is when the pressure from charter skippers and clubs needs to go in to get across the socio-economic importance to the local area.........plus of course the obvious one that angling doesn't damage the area.

 

 

 

 

Problem with that at the mo Worms are loose cannons who appear to be doing damage to the rsa and small local commercials, for example:

 

Reg, is commenting without any evidential back up, and can quite possibly cause a heck of a lot of damage to both the rsa and small local commercial. There are already many rules and regs in place to prevent the foreign and larger boats from operations inshore. It looks as though the enchoragement of an army of deciples to get all commercail activity banned from inshore, some will be clapping their hands. As us normal (hopefully i'm one) guys realise that the majority of the uk fleet 75% under tens are the inshore guys. So ultimatly Reg and co are saying goodbye to them.

 

His argument that he is saving the stock (bream) is weak with regards to the trawlers can't trawl through the breeding area, he still won't accept that. And has tried to state that the trawlers are doing what is impossible.

 

Words are used quote: it doesn't matter what the seabed habitat is made off, if the areas are not policed some will take the risk because there is so much profit to make, obviously more than the cost of new trawling gear You know that is not a true statement. There is a close season in any event, policed?

 

No self respecting inshore trawler operator will jepodise his £10,000 trawl in an area knowing it's going to get hung up.

 

The last sentence is a brahma as far as i'm concerned, quote: How about the wreck sites in Sussex, many have discarded commercial trawl nets trapped alongside causing potential risks to local divers, they are real fish killers for sure.

 

Potential risks, how do you legislate against that. Any of us normal rsa know that during the summer we hear loads of traffic from the coast guard and the rescue helicopters etc regarding divers, Nearly 99 % of the time it's to do with the unfortunate ones getting the bends, full stop. How the likes of Reg can link divers with commercials nets like that is scary. Last of all regarding the nets on wrecks. Sounds there are loads and loads of hapless commercials leaving their trawl nets and boards behind. Again, i just know that that is a load of busters, what commercial trawler operater would target a wreck as opposed to avoiding it. I can understand gill nets on the wrecks but trawls and the point was made, many that can't be a true statement.

 

This is where the clear and present danger is, pub talk and hearsay from loose cannons, i have no doubt that the likes of the gathering info guys are rubbing their hands with what is being put out.

Edited September 1, 2010 by barry luxton