Who DOES Know About Marine Conservation Zones?

[Bob Shotter]

Hi Corydoras

In reply to your question ‘Let's start with some data supporting your hypothesis that of Global Climate Change is a myth.’ Well now try any of the links below they might help not that it has any thing to do with the topic in hand.

 

http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-m...global-warming/

 

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/moregw.htm

 

http://green.yahoo.com/blog/daily_green_ne...ct-or-myth.html

 

Hi Flapper

 

The best way I can explain my theory is that you must realise that 75% of the UK CF fleet are the under tens to which you refer. It would be no real hardship to these boats to be prevented from fishing inside the six mile limit, but a huge benefit for the fish. I would also point out that a good few of the owners of the under tens are funded from having decommissioned over tens often boats that were long past their sale by date.

Steps might also be needed to prevent increased static netting as a result of the changes I would like to see, but don’t worry it wont happen any more than we can stop the conservation mob.

[flapper]

Hi Corydoras

In reply to your question ‘Let's start with some data supporting your hypothesis that of Global Climate Change is a myth.’ Well now try any of the links below they might help not that it has any thing to do with the topic in hand.

 

http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-m...global-warming/

 

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/moregw.htm

 

http://green.yahoo.com/blog/daily_green_ne...ct-or-myth.html

 

Hi Flapper

 

The best way I can explain my theory is that you must realise that 75% of the UK CF fleet are the under tens to which you refer. It would be no real hardship to these boats to be prevented from fishing inside the six mile limit, but a huge benefit for the fish. I would also point out that a good few of the owners of the under tens are funded from having decommissioned over tens often boats that were long past their sale by date.

Steps might also be needed to prevent increased static netting as a result of the changes I would like to see, but don’t worry it wont happen any more than we can stop the conservation mob.

Hi again deano.

So are you saying that 75% of the commercial fishing fleet are under ten’s and that to stop those trawling would be no real hardship? Then you go on to say that you think that they should also be limited static net fishing inside the 6 mile fishing limits? Have I got that correct?

What percentage of actual fish caught in UK Waters does that 75% of the fishing fleet catch?

What percentage of the UK cod quota (for example) does the under 10,s hold?

I understand what you mean by saying that the fish would benefit, but would the local fishing communities?

Surely the theory of a marine conservation zones should be to the benefit of all?

Flapper.

[Bob Shotter]

Hi again deano.

So are you saying that 75% of the commercial fishing fleet are under ten’s and that to stop those trawling would be no real hardship? Then you go on to say that you think that they should also be limited static net fishing inside the 6 mile fishing limits? Have I got that correct?

What percentage of actual fish caught in UK Waters does that 75% of the fishing fleet catch?

What percentage of the UK cod quota (for example) does the under 10,s hold?

I understand what you mean by saying that the fish would benefit, but would the local fishing communities?

Surely the theory of a marine conservation zones should be to the benefit of all?

Flapper.

 

Hi Flapper

 

Can I make clear what I said 'I see no hard ship on the under tens being banned from using mobile gear inside the six mile limit' meaning that to travel beyond six miles is no real hardship for them.

 

I assume you have been angling by boat and are aware that the closer to shore the more likely you are to catch juvenile fish.

That is not to say that you will not find them further out but the amount will differ significantly the further from the shore you travel.

It is therefore sensible to protect this venerable inshore area from the mass take when mobile gear is used.

 

The idea has no reflection on the quota given to the under tens which is just three percent of the UK total quota. They can and would still be able to catch their quota and likely as not with reduced discard. So no one need suffer within these local communities as you suggest.

 

Tight lines Bob

Edited March 1, 2011 by Deene'0

[76jerry]

Just to raise the blood pressure of you commerical boys , it is being proposed that within these MCZ there will no take zones where all fishing including rod and line fishing will be banned.

This has put a big smile on my face as one of the porposed MCZ is of Sennen cove and this hopefully put and end to the knuckle draggers seined netting Mullet

[Bob Shotter]

Just to raise the blood pressure of you commerical boys , it is being proposed that within these MCZ there will no take zones where all fishing including rod and line fishing will be banned.

This has put a big smile on my face as one of the porposed MCZ is of Sennen cove and this hopefully put and end to the knuckle draggers seined netting Mullet

 

Sennen Cove MCZ reffrance area wont happen, as to many have objected, me for one as the area is one of the best species areas for boat fishing, then you have the surfers who bring vital trade to the local area, local crab and lobster also would be banned and for what some mussels that are now farmed else were in the UK or oysters again plentiful in other places not so very far from Sennen.

 

Oh and your Mullet funney how they turn up year on year just as many get caught year on year.

 

Tight lines Bob

Edited March 1, 2011 by Deene'0

[flapper]

Hi Flapper

 

Can I make clear what I said 'I see no hard ship on the under tens being banned from using mobile gear inside the six mile limit' meaning that to travel beyond six miles is no real hardship for them.

 

I assume you have been angling by boat and are aware that the closer to shore the more likely you are to catch juvenile fish.

That is not to say that you will not find them further out but the amount will differ significantly the further from the shore you travel.

It is therefore sensible to protect this venerable inshore area from the mass take when mobile gear is used.

 

The idea has no reflection on the quota given to the under tens which is just three percent of the UK total quota. They can and would still be able to catch their quota and likely as not with reduced discard. So no one need suffer within these local communities as you suggest.

 

Tight lines Bob

Have caught juvenile fish all over the North Sea. Certainly not restricted to inside of six miles. You say that working outside of the six mile limits would be no hardship for the under 10,s why do you think that they are built to be under 10,s?

So if you say that 75% of the fishing fleet has allocated just 3% of the allowable quota you want to target this sector of the fishing industry by removing from them the grounds that they had there boats built to fish?

Flapper.

[Bob Shotter]

Have caught juvenile fish all over the North Sea. Certainly not restricted to inside of six miles. You say that working outside of the six mile limits would be no hardship for the under 10,s why do you think that they are built to be under 10,s?

So if you say that 75% of the fishing fleet has allocated just 3% of the allowable quota you want to target this sector of the fishing industry by removing from them the grounds that they had there boats built to fish?

Flapper.

 

YES That is exactly what is required and an under ten boat built to trawl will have no problem going beyond the six mile area.

Edited March 1, 2011 by Deene'0

[wurzel]

Hi Flapper

 

Can I make clear what I said 'I see no hard ship on the under tens being banned from using mobile gear inside the six mile limit' meaning that to travel beyond six miles is no real hardship for them.

 

I assume you have been angling by boat and are aware that the closer to shore the more likely you are to catch juvenile fish.

That is not to say that you will not find them further out but the amount will differ significantly the further from the shore you travel.

It is therefore sensible to protect this venerable inshore area from the mass take when mobile gear is used.

 

The idea has no reflection on the quota given to the under tens which is just three percent of the UK total quota. They can and would still be able to catch their quota and likely as not with reduced discard. So no one need suffer within these local communities as you suggest.

 

Tight lines Bob

 

Hello Bob

 

I assume you have personly witnessed this mass take by inshore mobile gear, or are you a victim of the state of fear created by the conservationists ?

[barry luxton]

Hello Bob

 

I assume you have personly witnessed this mass take by inshore mobile gear, or are you a victim of the state of fear created by the conservationists ?

 

Ahh yes, gives me the opportunity to put this one up again. Snigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i'm orfff

Edited March 1, 2011 by barry luxton

[wurzel]

Ahh yes, gives me the opportunity to put this one up again. Snigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i'm orfff

 

Where is the info on what is being caught ?

 

Probably a hand full of cuttles and not much else.