This weekends fishing

[gozzer]

People go fishing for a multitude of reasons. Some for the challenge, others to feel at one with nature or possibly just to get away from the wife.

Consequently this wide variety of anglers will respond to a variety of styles or types of fishing and some, dare I say it, actually enjoy fishing carp commercials. OK so the fishing isn't challenging but maybe that's what they want and enjoy.

When these same fisherman are repeatedly referred to as "noddies" or not "proper" or "serious" fishermen then it tends to irritate them. When assumptions are made that they are all too thick to see through the advertising hype they are bombarded with whilst, of course, the more discerning "serious" angler uses exactly the same kit but because he has evaluated it then this also tends to get his back up.

When serious Speci hunters fish for large bream, tench or barbel using exactly the same tackle as carp fishermen, used in the same way for the same reason (because it works) as the carp anglers, the specimen boys are congratulated on being "committed" to their sport or "top anglers. Carp anglers on the other hand are described as "noddy in a tent watching telly with camo slippers on whilst carp hook themselves three at a time on 'set lines'

 

The quotes by the way are all from recent posts on a variety of threads.

Yes, some people are getting up each others backs

 

Good post Dave.

 

The only thing I can say is that it does work both ways. I have fished waters for fish other than carp, and been subjected to derogatory remarks about being a 'noddie', and not fishing 'properly'. This often by those who have spent less time fishing than the line on my reel! They have all the gear, and use all the latest 'in phrases' (learned from the latest 'How To' DVD no doubt). You only have to talk to them for a minute to see that they are indeed 'sucked in' by all the advertising hype, and believe every word the 'celebs' say. Did it "get my back up"? A little, but I'm happy and confident in the way I fish. So unless they cast into my swim, (which has happened too often), or interfere with my fishing in any way, I ignore them. I believe that the only time anyone would react aggressively to opinions about their angling, is if they believe that there is some truth in the remarks, and they are not confident enough in what they are doing.

 

John.

 

PS.

 

I'll add a little story about the time I did take action against the jibes.

I used to fish a well known water that was split into 3 sections, the middle of which was known as the 'Noddy' lake. I often fished this lake when I was just after a relaxing day, after the tench and roach. A guy who worked in the ticket/bait/ tackle shed, was a 'serious' big fish angler. A decent bloke, but the size of his targeted species was matched by the size of his mouth and ego. He used to have go at anyone wanting a ticket for the middle lake, and the words "Noddy" and "Garden Gnome" were often used. I got a bit fed up with his constant digs, so I came up with a plan. I went on a day when I knew it was his day off, and was told he was fishing The 'specimen' lake as usual. I bought a ticket for that lake and went in search of him. I spotted his Bivvy and watched as he went inside. I sneaked up behind a bush near to his bivvy, took out a hat I'd saved from Christmas, (one of those green ones with the large bell on top), and started jingling the bell. Each time he came out to look, I stopped, only to start again when he went back in. I kept this up for about 15-20 mins, until his mutterings became quite loud. I then walked up to his bivvy and asked how he was doing. "I think I'm going mad John, I keep hearing things" he said. I joked about him having too much to drink the night before, and asked what kind of noise was it. "A kind of jingling" he said. "Oh, that'll be me" I replied, " I came out with only my middle lake hat today", I put it on and gave him a demonstration. He questioned my parentage, and told me to do things I think are physically impossible. But it was taken in good humour eventually. And he got 'ribbed' about it for long after. He did tone down his comments to those who fished the middle lake though.

Edited August 18, 2011 by gozzer

[Phone]

gozzer,

 

I've been meaning to talk to you about "the way you fish"?

 

Phone

[Dales]

gozzer,

 

I've been meaning to talk to you about "the way you fish"?

 

Phone

 

Send him some DVD's he might find them useful, something from Matt Hayes or Alex Bones should point him in the right direction

[gozzer]

Send him some DVD's he might find them useful, something from Matt Hayes or Alex Bones should point him in the right direction

 

Do you mean for phone to send some to me, or me to him?

I've been watching the reruns of Matt Hayes on Quest, I have to say, I'm not a big fan.

 

"The way I fish", sounds very singular phone, 'ways' would be more accurate

 

It's purely dependant on when, where and for what. I can be content fishing a 12oz hook length, 22hook, and small bait for small roach, dace, gudgeon etc, or fishing much stronger tackle with a size 4 and a big bait for barbel, chub, tench, (and even carp at times )

 

My preferences are for moving water with a float, and I sometimes enjoy it so much that I use it knowing that other methods will catch better.

On stillwaters I still prefer to float fish if possible, but will leger if needed. I don't use 'bolt rigs', 'hair rigs' or boilies from personal choice. I don't get much chance to go very often now, so I try and make the most of any session. I might try for one species early morning, change to another later, and then another late evening, (if I have the luxury of a full days fishing). If I fancy a day after roach, but on arrival I see it seems perfect for perch, or any other species, then I am happy to change tactics to suit. I suppose that I am 'traditional' in most of my methods, but do use carbon rods, as well as occasionally fibre glass.

Does that answer any questions Phone?

 

John.

[Dales]

Do you mean for phone to send some to me, or me to him?

 

Now I think about it, I'm not sure myself I think I mean't for phone to send them to you in a kind of not very funny joke way. But the more I think about it if phone saw one of those dodgy free DVD's it would sum up what many don't like about commercial Carp fisheries as it's all there all the little bits that annoy people all presented on about an hour and a half of some of the worst most drawn out boring advert you will ever see.

 

The more I think about it the fact that these free DVD adverts even exist is enough reason to detest commercial Carp fishing

[Phone]

Dales,

 

I do have a couple, maybe six "bait manufacturer" DVDs. I will say those guys are serious as a heart attack.

 

Phone

[John Weddup]

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Edited August 19, 2011 by John Weddup

[Sportsman]

I may have indulged in off topic replies to the bream spod topic eventually after the trouble started.

 

I now feel sorry for that and espescially for feederfisher who started the topic.

 

I did try to get it back on topic a couple of times being interested in the initial post And spodding for bream myself.

 

But you guys now continuing with the crap on my fishing reports has seriously annoyed me.

 

I post these to be helpfull to other anglers and anyone who might enjoy the sport.

 

If you want to hold discussions completely irrelevant to my topic then start one of your own in other words for the very eduacated amongst you of which I am not f**k off from my posts.

 

John

 

ps the only edit was because the word I posted was not allowed so I posted it with 2 letters so there would be no doubt

 

Sorry John, but when you post on a public forum you don't get to choose what answers you get. They are not "your' posts but have a life of their own.

[John Weddup]

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Edited August 19, 2011 by John Weddup

[Sportsman]

Then maybe, like a few others , I shall never post again and we will see how long said forums last.

 

I am member number 18 and never felt this angry before.

 

Lets see how many others feel this way and if my response is unwelcome then I know it will not affect my fishing one little bit.

 

John

 

Incidentally I post with my real name not a dig at yourself or any others but everything I do or say i will stand up for and be counted.

 

 

I would be interested to know what has made you so angry