Ferox trout

[Vagabond]

Eddie:

Permision to ask a question sir! Look I've got me hand up"

Where you trolling deadbaits? Maybe char?

Oh dear that was two questions, maybe I will get shouted at again.

Eddie, I know you were trying to be helpful.

 

Three methods which worked for us:-

1/ Deep diving plugs ( charr and trout coloured patterns.) 2/ Live baits 3/ Mounted (on Archer flights) dead baits.

 

Trout baits, (I would have used charr if available) or the local salmon hatchery may provide smolts.

 

...but, its not just the baits, its how you fish them - DEEP!

 

[ 15. June 2003, 04:55 AM: Message edited by: Vagabond ]

[Andy Macfarlane]

Its illegal to be in posession of Smolts, dead or alive.

[Andy Macfarlane]

Salmo Trutta Fario is generally regarded to be the proper non migratory Wild Brown Trout.

Salmo Trutta is the term for all varieties of Brown Trout including Sea-Trout and Ferox.

It is believed that Browns at a point of thier devlopment split into groups of forage feeders, surface feeders, Cannibals and Migratory sea running fish etc.

All these fish have the same DNA pattern and the ability to "transform" into any one of these Trout types. There are many different variables that may dictate which of these lifestyles the young Trout embarks upon. Some waters have enough variation in habitat to allow for many types of Trout to exist in one location. Loch Garry being one of them.

All Trout are capable of withstanding a gradual change in salinity so migration is feasable by any one of these varieties at any point of thier life although the transition almost always occurs at an early age.

Ferox can usually be found at a similar depth to Char. This could be at a depth of over 100 feet. Ferox can usually be differentiated by the large eyes, huge tail, distinctive Kype and unusual colouration. Lack of sunshine and the almost exclusive fish based diet are partly responsible for the metamorphosis.

[Eddie]

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Originally posted by Vagabond:

QUOTE]The point I'm making, is that someone decided to answer for me (I've been away on a fishing trip the last three days) and gave an answer that is facile, vague and misleading.

 

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Must remember the question mark next time.

[Vagabond]

OK Eddie, point taken - I'm sorry I over-reacted to your original post.

 

[ 15. June 2003, 04:57 AM: Message edited by: Vagabond ]

[Vagabond]

Andy Macfarlane:

Its illegal to be in posession of Smolts, dead or alive.

Good point Andy, and certainly that applies,(and quite rightly too) to wild salmon.

 

However, a fishery that includes a licenced salmon hatchery is "in possession of smolts" legally, and presumably can legally sell them for use as bait on their own fishery? Many water authorities sell live trout for pike fishing on their own reservoirs.

[gaza]

here are a few links for the ferrox trout now thought to be a seperate species you judge and let all of us know.

from tom caldera scottish angler he sent the to me a while ago

1. []http://www.tomdoun-sporting-lodge.com/[/url]

 

 

 

 

 

1. Wild trout - the ferox trout

A ferox trout. This Irish specimen scaled 11lb 11oz and was ten years old

when caught. Few other ... The Ferox Trout. A ferox trout. This Irish ...

http://www.wild-trout.co.uk/ferox.htm

 

2. Wild trout - lake trout - the Logh Melvin trout - ferox trout, ...

... Ferox Trout Salmo trutta trutta. ... And the ferox trout move from the

lough into the River Glenaniff where most of the Melvin Atlantic salmon

also spawn. ... http://www.wild-trout.co.uk/melvin.htm

 

3. Ferox Trout Fishing

Ferox Trout. Tayside. ... Loch Tay is not usually associated with ferox

trout fishing. Specialist anglers usually make a bee line for Loch Awe or

Loch Rannoch. ... http://www.fishingnet.com/ferox_trout.htm

 

4. Ferox Trout

... The Ferox Fran Igoe. The Ferox trout, Salmo ferox, is one of Ireland's

most famous trout races. ... In Scotland ferox trout have been associated

with char lakes. ... http://www.charr.org/species/ferox.htm

 

5. Fish & Fly - Jon Beer - 10/01 - Ferox trout

... Homer and Bart are those legendary creatures of the large lochs: they

are ferox trout. Loch Garry ferox trout with radio tag. ... A 10lb 12oz

ferox trout. ... http://www.fishandfly.co.uk/jbedit1001.html

 

6. roderick sutterby wildlife artist - galleries - salmonid - Ferox ...

FEROX TROUT - 0099. Salmo trutta water-colour. 2000. ...

http://www.rodsutterby.co.uk/gallery_salmonid_0099.htm

 

7. roderick sutterby wildlife artist - catalogue - Ferox Trout - ...

FEROX TROUT - 0103. Brown Trout Salmo trutta. water-colour. ...

http://www.rodsutterby.co.uk/catalogue_0103.htm

 

8. St.Winnoch Angling Club - Ferox Trout

The Ferox Trout. A ferox trout. ... There is considerable evidence that

the number of big ferox trout has declined during this century. ...

http://www.lochwinnochac.net/Trout/ferox.html

 

9. Fishing:Ferox Trout

FISHING: FEROX TROUT. the ... Ferox Trout are found throughout the system,

breeding in the river and travelling great distances. Loch ...

[url"]http://www.tomdoun-sporting-lodge.com/[/url]

 

10. BES - Grant Reports - SEPG 1524

... Russian Dolls: Determination of the diets of Arctic charr (Salvelinus

alpinus) and ferox trout (Salmo trutta) from Loch Ness using gut content

examination and ...

http://www.britishecologicalsociety.org/

 

 

 

 

 

1. Ferox Trout Fishing

Fishing for Ferox Trout on Loch Tay Scotland http://www.fishingnet.com

 

2. Wild trout - the ferox trout

A ferox trout. This Irish specimen scaled 11lb 11oz and was ten years old

when caught. Few other trout in European lakes grow to anything like this

size. http://www.wild-trout.co.uk

 

3. Ferox Trout

"The Trouts" gillaroo | sonaghen | Croneen The Ferox Fran Igoe The Ferox

trout, Salmo ferox, is one of Ireland's most famous trout races. This is

principally due to the large size which it can attain. A Ferox Trout from

L. Talt. This fish is a small http://www.charr.org

 

4. Fish & Fly - Jon Beer - 10/01 - Ferox trout

Jon Beer takes a look at ferox trout http://www.fishandfly.co.uk

 

5. Buy Ferox Trout and Arctic Charr: A Predator, Its Pursuit and Its Prey

at Amazon.com

Shop here for Ferox Trout and Arctic Charr: A Predator, Its Pursuit and

Its Prey and find more books at Amazon.com. For a limited time, get free

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[Andy Macfarlane]

Vagabond:

Vagabond:

Its illegal to be in posession of Smolts, dead or alive.

Good point Andy, and certainly that applies,(and quite rightly too) to wild salmon.

 

However, a fishery that includes a licenced salmon hatchery is "in possession of smolts" legally, and presumably can legally sell them for use as bait on their own fishery? Many water authorities sell live trout for pike fishing on their own reservoirs.

It isn't upto the fishery. They don't make by-laws. Possession of Smolts, no matter where they come from are illegal to have in Scotland. Having Smolts on you is punishable anywhere in Scotland. You simply cannot possess them....period....even if they are dead.

[corydoras]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><strong>It isn't upto the fishery. They don't make by-laws. Possession of Smolts, no matter where they come from are illegal to have in Scotland. Having Smolts on you is punishable anywhere in Scotland. You simply cannot possess them....period....even if they are dead.

Andy

 

There must be exceptions. Click here to see what I mean.

[Andy Macfarlane]

I know fish farmers grow them, sell them etc. but they are liscensed to do so and only to other farmers and fisheries. They cannot sell them to some punter looking for deads or livies.

If Joe Bloggs turns up ANYWHERE in Scotland with a live or dead Smolt, Atlantic Salmon eggs or Salmon dough. etc. he will be prosecuted. I,m not making this up for christ sake. If a Bailiff turns up and finds you using any of these baits you will be prosecuted too. Just telling you before you get 5 years in Bar-L.

Don't sat I didn't warn you.

The only exceptions to the Salmon offspring rule are the new Pacific Salmon eggs found in shops. Although legal at the minute, I,m sure they will be outlawed soon enough.