Bailing out the Euro

[Renrag39]

Also note the few words before your highlighted text Andrew, Government and Cabinet. They did this, not because they wanted to, I suspect (mere opinion), more to ensure their own survival and to relieve some of the pressure on the French people as a whole. I see it as more 'taking one for the team'.

 

This is just my personal opinion and survival is the basest of instincts after procreation. I honestly can't really see another option that would have fared them better. Certainly f*cking the Germans would have helped very little...

Unfortunately they are now remembered as cheese eating surrender monkeys.

 

Renrag

[corydoras]

Yep that was the Vichy government.

 

But not all of France was under the Vichy Government. You just don't know what you are talking about.

 

My ex wife's Grandfather was a Resistance radio operator. We still have his radio and his sten gun (long since de-activated) kicking around somewhere.

 

Have you never heard of Violette Szabo?

Have you never heard of the SOE?

Have you never heard of Georges Bégué?

 

Have you never heard of The North Africa Campaign, where Free French Forces fought at, The Battle of Bir Hakeim, The Battle of Kufra, The Italian invasion of Egypt, Operation Capri, Operation Compass, Operation Pugilist, Second Battle of El Alamein and Western Desert Campaign?

 

Have you never heard of the Free French aviators that fought over English sky's in the Battle of Britain?

[Andrew]

Oh i do know the truth when i see it.

 

 

Maybe you can advice me on what the better books are in history are about WW11.

Do the history books have different truths about the Vichy Government ?

Edited September 30, 2011 by Andrew

[Andrew]

My views on the French Governments and i stand by them.

Yes i have heard of the Resistance fighters, ordinary French citizens who fought to free their country.

[corydoras]

Truth hurts dont it.

 

 

 

All in the history books of WW11.

 

 

 

 

 

Please note the red text.

And yes i have done a google for the FACTS.

Go and visit Oradour-sur-Glane. Tell them they are all cheese eating surrender monkeys, then come back and tell us all how you got on.

[Andrew]

Go and visit Oradour-sur-Glane. Tell them they are all cheese eating surrender monkeys, then come back and tell us all how you got on.

 

 

I think you should have quoted Renrag39 on this and certainly not me. I never posted that remark.

[corydoras]

My views on the French Governments and i stand by them.

Yes i have heard of the Resistance fighters, ordinary French citizens who fought to free their country.

But you seem not to know the difference between Petain's Vichy France and the Free French? You know the bits you want to know, the bits that support your pre-conceived stereotypes.

[corydoras]

I think you should have quoted Renrag39 on this and certainly not me. I never posted that remark.

No you didn't but it's what you implied.

[chesters1]

perhaps the french should have copied the fins resistance and not surrendered as soon as the threat of bombing paris was put about

would have france had a "resistance" if it were not for the english ,had we fallen i bet france would have danced along with their german allies .

degaul hated us which was shown by his attempt to stop us joining the later common market but ignored it enough to run over here and ponce off us as soon as it got a bit difficult back home ,he even refused to march with the allies in the freeing of france in the paris parade.

just a failed tank commander seems to be enough to run france

Edited September 30, 2011 by chesters1

[corydoras]

Oh i do know the truth when i see it.

 

 

Maybe you can advice me on what the better books are in history are about WW11 .

You could try Matthew Cobbs "The Resistance: The French Fight Against the Nazis", Charlotte Delbo's Book "Convoy to Auschwitz: Women of the French Resistance" and John Sweets' "Choices in Vichy France: The French Under Nazi Occupation" for starters.