Zig Rig with Boom?

[Dave H]

Just seen a carp programme where some carper face was fishing a Zig rig with boom. I gotta say it sounded like a good idea . You can vary the depth without reeling it in.

 

However i was trying to get my head round it?

 

First of all to me it is just a simple run rig popped up off the lead however because the rig would become almost verticle from the lead the fish surely would feel the rig as it would not run freely or IS that the point?. But this is the bit my old tired brain could not soak up. I can see it helps with casting by keeping the hook link away from the line but then i am struggling on how it can adjust the hight using the boom? Yes the clutch can be drawn in or reeled in but what is stopping the boom from just floating to the hooklength everytime

 

Can somebody explain the rig as i am missing something or probably a part of tackle or just not getting the adjustability using the boom?

 

Also how of you who have used it find it?

 

Cheers

[Dave H]

Come on chaps i have my serious cap on here. i need to learn these new gadgets to keep up with the whipper snappers on the bank!!

[Anderoo]

Have a look at p.23 of this: http://www.foxint.com/uploads/catalogue_do..._RigGuideUK.pdf

 

Is that it?

[Steve Burke]

Are you talking about a sunken float paternoster? With this rig you can vary the depth by increasing or decreasing the tension rather than recasting.

 

See this post of my giving full details of its advantages and detailed instructions/photos of how to tie it: http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/Sunken-...ter-t80818.html.

 

Although this version is for pike fishing it can easily be adapted for carping by leaving out the uptrace. This is what I do when after perch on waters that don't hold pike. But it catches me an awful lot of unwelcome carp too!

[Phone]

Hawk,

 

I confess, yer got me! Wat the 'ell is a "boom"?

 

I use zig rigs all the time. They are easy and self explainatory. You want to fish 30 feet off the bottom in a 60 ft deep lake with a popup? Put a weight 30 feet up your mainline. You want to cast a zillion yards. OK, in a zig zag fashion take the line from the weight to the terminal end and fold it up. Tie lightly with a piece of PVA string. There, you have your zig rig. As for putting it on a boom - I don't know what a boom is unless you're using a rigger of some sort.

 

Sometimes I only use enough weight to "define" my depth. With the aid of a fishfinder sonic boom machine that show a thermocline is a good time to use a zig rig. Or, the fishfinder sonic boom machines show fish in a suspended shoal. Zig rig for them also.

 

I never use a zig rig for less than - ohh say - 3 or 4 ft. You can simply cast with a 4 ft leader. Same deal.

 

Is that what you're talking about?

 

Phone

Edited January 21, 2012 by Phone

[Phone]

Hawk,

 

Ok I found a "boom" in a fishwrap mag from the UK.

 

The Great Glossary has failed again Dales mentions a “boom” but fails to define it. It should be his responsibility.

 

Helicopters are perfect for the presentation of stiff rigs and booms the most popular of these being the chod rig. The rig can slide on the leadcore to prevent it being shaken out, making the helicopter the only choice for the chod.

 

Never use shock leaders with this set-up – it simply adds another knot that the hook length swivel would need to pass over for a carp to be free of the lead and leader.

Here’s how you make one – from the top (mainline) to the bottom (terminal end).

Adaptive camo leadcore

0.5 silicone

Camo flex bead

Saze 7 flex ring swivel

Camo heli-kit sleeve

Exocet distance lead (weight)

25 lb cortex boom (notice you can make this as long as you wish with a “zig-rig” by coiling rather than back and forth)

Size 11 swivel

Rig putty

15 lb rigdity

Size 6 hook

Rig ring

Popup bait

Bait floss

 

Rather than make your own, buy the Fox Ready Made Heli Rig Kits. Replace the “boom” portion with your own stiff boom material and zig rig it.

 

An editorial comment. You've GOT to be kidding me - RIGHT?

 

Phone

Edited January 21, 2012 by Phone

[tomhaggett]

Hawk,

 

Ok I found a "boom" in a fishwrap mag from the UK.

 

The Great Glossary has failed again Dales mentions a “boom” but fails to define it. It should be his responsibility.

 

Helicopters are perfect for the presentation of stiff rigs and booms the most popular of these being the chod rig. The rig can slide on the leadcore to prevent it being shaken out, making the helicopter the only choice for the chod.

 

Never use shock leaders with this set-up – it simply adds another knot that the hook length swivel would need to pass over for a carp to be free of the lead and leader.

Here’s how you make one – from the top (mainline) to the bottom (terminal end).

Adaptive camo leadcore

0.5 silicone

Camo flex bead

Saze 7 flex ring swivel

Camo heli-kit sleeve

Exocet distance lead (weight)

25 lb cortex boom (notice you can make this as long as you wish with a “zig-rig” by coiling rather than back and forth)

Size 11 swivel

Rig putty

15 lb rigdity

Size 6 hook

Rig ring

Popup bait

Bait floss

 

Rather than make your own, buy the Fox Ready Made Heli Rig Kits. Replace the “boom” portion with your own stiff boom material and zig rig it.

 

An editorial comment. You've GOT to be kidding me - RIGHT?

 

Phone

 

Sounds to me like you're talking about an adjustable zig as seen here - http://www.korda.co.uk/movies/?id=67

 

Phone, the boom you are reffering to is used on a particular pop up rig (hinged stiff), and helps to kick the hooklink away from the lead/leader.. not at all suited to zig fishing I'm afraid.

[Dales]

I use zig rigs all the time. They are easy and self explainatory. You want to fish 30 feet off the bottom in a 60 ft deep lake with a popup? Put a weight 30 feet up your mainline. You want to cast a zillion yards. OK, in a zig zag fashion take the line from the weight to the terminal end and fold it up. Tie lightly with a piece of PVA string.

 

Phone

 

As per your PM Phone, that's pretty much the way I zig rig, straight of the lead but have only done it from around 4 to 12 feet.

[Newt]

Phone - there are very few UK lakes large and deep enough to ever have the water stratify (and almost all of those are in a smallish area known as the Lake District) so thermoclines are rare and fresh water anglers who know about them are even more rare. Not sure about the guys who sea fish from boats or the sea conditions around the UK.

 

We've had several discussions about them over the years but none lately so a new topic about them might be fun if you want to start it. I think I did the last one but its been 4-5 years at least.

[Phone]

Dales,

 

No, you are obligated to the "Great Glossary" for the word "boom" You're the only one who mentioned it. Now it's your baby.

 

Tomh,

 

This was from a "how to" article written by FOX. Tell them. (I've never seen such a cluster of nonsense in my life.)

 

Newt,

 

Why not? I'll put it together. (I can't include the sea guys anyway. I don't know anything about oceans execpt that where you go to puke ).

 

Phone