Green worms

[Sportsman]

I just stumbled on this

http://www.willyworms.co.uk/green-worms.html

 

Any thoughts?

[jack1432]

Some strange things on the market nowadays

[Phone]

Sportsman,

 

They're on sale aren't they? Not getting priceyer. I have fed lob worms everything you can think of. Pretty much, they will eat it. Fluoresce is one choice. At night you can blast them with a flashlight and I have to admit it looks really cool. Doesn't catch anymore fish however.

 

I don't know why adding flavors to the lob worm diet doesn't work (all that well)? Logic seems to dictate it should work. The ones I like are the ones that smell like coffee grounds after feeding them the grounds. At least it makes your lobs smell good and they fish about the same (? - to me). Milk will make your lobs cloud the water a bit - that's cool too.

 

Phone

[Dales]

I can't think of a reason why they should not work, if they do not cost more then your usual supplier then I see no reason not to use them. Not sure if they would be better but doubt they would be worse.

[carp-catcha]

Although I know that willyworms produce some of the best fishing worms you can buy, I haven't heard any exceptional catch reports from the greenies. My best catches on worms are from those collected fresh from the garden the night before a session, it's so easy http://carp-fishing-reels.com/cfr-article-...ms-for-fishing/ and they are always of the best quality...

[corydoras]

Although I know that willyworms produce some of the best fishing worms you can buy, I haven't heard any exceptional catch reports from the greenies. My best catches on worms are from those collected fresh from the garden the night before a session, it's so easy http://carp-fishing-reels.com/cfr-article-...ms-for-fishing/ and they are always of the best quality...

I had a look at the site in your link and saw this bit:

Worms are a super fishing bait. Their irresistable wriggling movement, combined with their natural releasing of amino acids into the water, excite and hunger fish often resulting in frantic feeding.

 

I have only read that worms release amino acids into the water and that said amino acids "stimulate" fish into feeding on angling related sites or on sites trying to sell stuff to anglers. No mention of it in any articles or papers published in scientific journals. Does anyone know what the science on this topic says? Do worms release amino acids into the water, and which of the twenty-two standard amino acids turn fish on?

Edited February 13, 2012 by corydoras

[Phone]

Cory,

 

Your question is a 100 page thread. For years I jacked with amino acids. Probably if you stop at the protein level you've gone far enough.

 

However, lycine and chitin are the two that most influance carp. You notice you've never heard of chitin as an amino. Well, to carp it is. It is "essential" to good liver health. Lycine is a sulfur (sp for Brits?) based amino. All the sulfur aminos work to some degree or another depending on peptones blah blah blah. The B E S T source of lycine for carp bait is human baby puke (IMO). Also, all sulfur based amino acids are enhanced by adding sulfur. The "best" product that powers additional amino acids in carp bait is brewers yeast. (In this sentence the meaning of "best" is an unknown. Brewers yeast had great blobs of amino acids)

 

Bait at the amino level is marketing. WAY to many factors to consider if they will even be available. Essential or non-essential. We're not 100% completely certain which ones are essential and non-essential for fishes.

 

I've never seen a assay of wild lob worms that I know of or remember. I'll look if you insist.

 

Carp-catc,

 

I agree.

 

Phone

Edited February 13, 2012 by Phone

[Sportsman]

I had a look at the site in your link and saw this bit:

 

 

I have only read that worms release amino acids into the water and that said amino acids "stimulate" fish into feeding on angling related sites or on sites trying to sell stuff to anglers. No mention of it in any articles or papers published in scientific journals. Does anyone know what the science on this topic says? Do worms release amino acids into the water, and which of the twenty-two standard amino acids turn fish on?

 

Back in the early 70's I was heavily into cod fishing from the beach. Favourite bait was lugworm which was hard to get and expensive.

Someone in the fisheries laboratory in Lowestoft produced a paper on making and artificial lugworm for longliners whose major constituent was amino acids isolated from lugworm and we were looking at buying the amino acids to enhance our fishing bait.

I had a friend who was a keen carp fisherman in those early days and some of the early boilies were based on the same amino acids.

The paper definitely stated that small amounts of the appropriate amino acids introduced into a large tank sent cod and whiting into a feeding frenzy.